WiFi cloning with devolo dLAN

esuhl

alhenderson wrote: »

Looks like I'm going to have to give that a go - didn't even realise they had a web interface. Don't suppose you know how I access it, do you?

Usually, it's just a case of typing the Devolo's IP address into a web browser.

If you log in to your router's web interface, you can probably find out which IP the Devolo is using.

alhenderson

esuhl wrote: »

Usually, it's just a case of typing the Devolo's IP address into a web browser.

If you log in to your router's web interface, you can probably find out which IP the Devolo is using.

That's what I thought. Found two devices reported by the router (using the same IP address, which I guess could be how it works) which looked like they could be the devolos (they weren't explicitly identified as such), but typing their IPs into a browser yielded nothing

Al.

thorganby

alhenderson wrote: »

That manual's from a different product, but I'll certainly give it a go when I get home later...

Thanks,
Al.

Well this manual isn't the wrong one and you obviously have not read it.

https://www.devolo.co.uk/fileadmin/user_upload/Products/dLAN-500-WiFi/Documents/Manual-dLAN-500-WiFi-com.pdf

alhenderson wrote: »

That's what I thought. Found two devices reported by the router (using the same IP address, which I guess could be how it works) which looked like they could be the devolos (they weren't explicitly identified as such), but typing their IPs into a browser yielded nothing

Al.

You need to forget your assumptions and read the manual because it does not work how you think that it works!

You state that "the cockpit software is next to useless" yet it allows full configuration of every parameter of the Delovo devices on your network.

You need to configure the devices and stop assuming that they will work how you expect straight out of the box.

RTFM

alhenderson

thorganby wrote: »

Well this manual isn't the wrong one and you obviously have not read it.

https://www.devolo.co.uk/fileadmin/user_upload/Products/dLAN-500-WiFi/Documents/Manual-dLAN-500-WiFi-com.pdf



You need to forget your assumptions and read the manual because it does not work how you think that it works!

You state that "the cockpit software is next to useless" yet it allows full configuration of every parameter of the Delovo devices on your network.

You need to configure the devices and stop assuming that they will work how you expect straight out of the box.

RTFM

Ignoring the aggressive tone of your post...

The manual you linked to claims to be the same device, and indeed the pictures of the devices look right. However, there's no mention in there whatsoever of WiFi Cloning, which is what I am trying to achieve here. So it's either an out of date manual, or for a subtly different device.

And I am not making assumptions about how this should work - my understanding of how it should work is based on the *manual* that came with the devices, in which it details a 5 or 6 step process to set up WiFi cloning. I'm perfectly willing to accept I've done something wrong, but I'm damned if I can see what that is!

If, as you suggest, the cockpit software allows for complete configuration of the devices, they've done a very good job of hiding said functionality because I can see no way at all of achieving anything like that. Might be that the cockpit app for smart phones is better, but the software that came on the disc with the Devolos appears to offer very little in the way of functionality.

Have you used these devices to achieve WiFi cloning?

Al.

thorganby

alhenderson wrote: »

Ignoring the aggressive tone of your post...

The manual you linked to claims to be the same device, and indeed the pictures of the devices look right. However, there's no mention in there whatsoever of WiFi Cloning, which is what I am trying to achieve here. So it's either an out of date manual, or for a subtly different device.

And I am not making assumptions about how this should work - my understanding of how it should work is based on the *manual* that came with the devices, in which it details a 5 or 6 step process to set up WiFi cloning. I'm perfectly willing to accept I've done something wrong, but I'm damned if I can see what that is!

If, as you suggest, the cockpit software allows for complete configuration of the devices, they've done a very good job of hiding said functionality because I can see no way at all of achieving anything like that. Might be that the cockpit app for smart phones is better, but the software that came on the disc with the Devolos appears to offer very little in the way of functionality.

Have you used these devices to achieve WiFi cloning?

Al.

You say that you are not making assumptions about how these should work but your understanding is wrong.

The "manual" that you refer to is a quick guide and will use default WiFi settings, not magically create a clone.

They can easily be used to create a "clone" WiFi network but the new "cloned" network configuration is down to you e.g. SSID, Channel, encryption type, Network Key etc. etc.

Yes I have set up many WiFi networks but I do not make assumptions and read the relevant instructions.

Your father in law may think that you "know about computers" but that does not mean that you understand setting up a simple WiFi network but you can learn.

alhenderson

thorganby wrote: »

You say that you are not making assumptions about how these should work but your understanding is wrong.

The "manual" that you refer to is a quick guide and will use default WiFi settings, not magically create a clone.

They can easily be used to create a "clone" WiFi network but the new "cloned" network configuration is down to you e.g. SSID, Channel, encryption type, Network Key etc. etc.

Yes I have set up many WiFi networks but I do not make assumptions and read the relevant instructions.

Your father in law may think that you "know about computers" but that does not mean that you understand setting up a simple WiFi network but you can learn.

You've clearly not read the quick guide, because it does indeed claim to do what you say it does not - clone the existing WiFi. If my understanding is wrong, it's because of what I have read in the quick guide (the only paperwork that comes with these things) and seen from the Devolo videos I have found online.

If you have indeed used these things to clone a WiFi network, perhaps you'd like to enlighten me and offer some actual, constructive advice? The personal insults aren't especially helpful.

Al.

Lumstorm

WiFi cloning video https://youtu.be/EAZh5GjKBvo
newer video https://youtu.be/o6ffXk3fyhg

debitcardmayhem

Lumstorm wrote: »

WiFi cloning video https://youtu.be/EAZh5GjKBvo
newer video https://youtu.be/o6ffXk3fyhg

All well and good , but if WPS is not working,then as I suggested in my last post(#10) , then Al needs to connect to the devoloxxx wifi network and connect to that using devolo.wifi from a browser and enter the network ssid of his home network and the password then it should work, notwithstanding the fact that the manual I linked to being a different model, I can't find any reference to any model number anywhere in his threads. Did you try it Al?

Lumstorm

debitcardmayhem wrote: »

All well and good , but if WPS is not working,then as I suggested in my last post(#10) , then Al needs to connect to the devoloxxx wifi network and connect to that using devolo.wifi from a browser and enter the network ssid of his home network and the password then it should work, notwithstanding the fact that the manual I linked to being a different model, I can't find any reference to any model number anywhere in his threads. Did you try it Al?

We don't know where he failing and as you said he hasn't given a model number to help so we are guessing what product he's using. I have never used these devices but I would connect to it with a network cable instead of WiFi to setup, I imagine like most network devices there's a web based setup if you login to the IP.

alhenderson

Thanks for the recent replies all - missed the notifications somehow.

I was eventually able to get the Cockpit software to do something useful. When I first tried it the other day, it showed me the two devices that I had plugged in, but I could not do anything with them except delete them. When I hovered over them there were no configuration icons or anything like that.

Checking my router's status page I could also see there was no record of any device connected to any of the router LAN ports. It then dawned on me that I already had two TP-Link powerline adapters in use. When I took these out of the equation life got a lot better.

The cockpit software then allowed me to access the devices and configure the SSID, network security etc manually. At that point everything worked as expected. I didn't go back and try the WPS method as I had access to the configuration pages so went for that approach.

What I don't know is why the WPS method did not work at the father in law's place. Might be due to WPS being off on his router. I'll find out over the weekend.

Thanks for the various replies to this topic.

Al.