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Should I continue to fight???

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I unfortunately didn't read the forums here when I initially got a parking ticket. I very natively (in hindsight) thought when I produced my paid ticket that all would be straightened out.
The basic facts are - I parked in a private multi story. I paid for a ticket and displayed it on my dash. I stayed for less time than I paid for and left. When I initially received the PCN the letter states that the charge was for non-payment and I was relieved to know I still had my paid ticket and thought once I scanned it and sent it through to their appeals department that the matter would be dropped. It was only when I received their letter in return saying the charge still stood because I did not have the proper number plate entered in on my ticket that realised the number plate was indeed not correct and there was only a letter B in the space for a number plate. I honestly don't know how it happened, I had my two daughters with me and was in "auto pilot" mode buying my ticket. Even when I received their response after I submitted the copy of the ticket I thought common sense would prevail as I did purchase a ticket, produced it for them and made no other violation than not checking my ticket to ensure my number plate had printed out correctly.
I continued with their "independent" appeals site volleying back and forth. I do admit I did not check my ticket to ensure my number plate was correct but their machine also should not have issued me with a ticket that obviously could not be legal, being only one digit. Had the machine alerted me to the error when I was purchasing my ticket I would have corrected it, why in the world would I pay for a ticket and not want it to be legal?
I think what they are doing is wrong and only meant for sheer profiteering and don't want to pay for the ticket but the appeals site has come back to me and said they have ruled that the ticket is legal because my number plate was not entered correctly. Obviously by letter of the law I am in the wrong as their signs state it is my responsibility to check my ticket. But don't they have a responsibility to provide a machine that doesn't issue illegal tickets? I see that many people on the forum just ignore these private tickets. Is this what I should do now or am I too late after going through the appeals process? I have real reservations about doing nothing but also feel very strongly about paying 100.00 for a ticket that I don't feel is legal. If I do not pay the ticket, can you please give me an indication as to what will happen next? I'm assuming from what I read that they will continue to hassle me with letters threatening court proceedings. Any other insight from someone who has been through it if this is all and for how long it goes on? Again, I wish I'd read this site in the beginning but didn't so just have to work with where I am now. Thank you in advance for any advice you have to give!
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  • Browntoa
    Browntoa Posts: 49,607 Forumite
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    Read the newbies thread , it's a thread at the top of this section , and fight it
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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    C&Ps_Mummy wrote: »
    I see that many people on the forum just ignore these private tickets......!


    The advice is not to ignore the ticket, but appeal as you have done

    Then ignore everything except a lbcca or court correspondence


    They have 6 years to take legal action


    Should it come to that, then come back at that time for help in defending, but in the meantime the advice is now ignore everything!
  • Ralph-y
    Ralph-y Posts: 4,706 Forumite
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    hi, and welcome to the forum .....

    yes you should continue to fight ....

    please take the time to watch the video linked below

    https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-02-02/debates/CC84AF5E-AC6E-4E14-81B1-066E6A892807/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill


    these are some of the comments the MP's said / stated



    ''Rip-offs from car park Cowboys must stop''; unfair treatment; signage deliberately confusing to ensure a PCN is issued; ''years of abuse by rogue parking companies''; bloodsuckers; ''the current system of regulation is hopeless, like putting Dracula in charge of the blood-bank''; extortionate fines; rogue operators; ''sense of injustice''; unfair charges and notices; wilfully misleading; signage is a deliberate act to deceive or mislead; ''confusing signs are often deliberate, to trap innocent drivers''; unreasonable; a curse; harassing; operating in a disgusting way; appeals service is no guarantee of a fair hearing; loathed; outrageous scam; dodgy practice; outrageous abuse; unscrupulous practices; ''the British Parking Association is as much use as a multi-storey car park in the Gobi desert''; and finally, by way of unanimous conclusion: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists and ordinary residents should not have to put up with this''.

    These are the exact words used, so you should quote them to your MP in a complaint and ask him/her to contact Sir Greg Knight MP if he wants further information about this scam.

    I take it you have read through the newbies thread

    ?

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

    unless I missed it you did not state the PPC's name .... this is needed to let you know like outcomes .....

    let us know please

    Ralph:cool:
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Of course you should fight. Wanting £100 because you made a typo or mistype is ludicrous, it is a scam and has caused the PPC little damage. Indeed, many judges regard this as de minimus.

    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

    Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

    The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the HofC recently.

    http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

    and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by Christmas.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,420 Forumite
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    If you want overstretched regulars to read your first post and help you, please put some paragraphs into the wall of text you have presented.

    Many regulars won't read such blocks and pass over them - too many others to help. Such walls of text are extremely difficult to read and can lead to headache.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • waamo
    waamo Posts: 10,298 Forumite
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    Which parking company is it?
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,482 Forumite
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    and who's car park was it?
    If you want to fight it take the fight to the landowner a it is they who will have contacted the parking company
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • C&Ps_Mummy
    C&Ps_Mummy Posts: 23 Forumite
    The parking company is Excel Parking
  • C&Ps_Mummy
    C&Ps_Mummy Posts: 23 Forumite
    The car park wasn't for a single shop. It was a car park in Bangor, North Wales
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,482 Forumite
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    Retail park?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
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