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DWP owe me £20,000+

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  • aaronlowe
    aaronlowe Posts: 44 Forumite
    edited 2 April 2018 at 5:18PM
    Alice_Holt wrote: »
    Sadly an advice agency would not have the resources to represent at judicial review, they would refer the OP on to a specialist legal firm (such as those I have listed). And as you rightly say the OP would not be able to go it alone.

    In some instances individuals have used crowd funding to fund a judicial review on matters of public concern. Perhaps the OP can consider this, as he says in post 11 currently his options seem limited.
    What you say might be true. It's a postcode lottery. I got lucky when I was living in Edinburgh that there was such an advice agency that had the resources to represent me at tribunal. Not sure about judicial review. That might be totally different even though my tribunal had a real judge and was held in a pseudo court setting.

    But even if an advisory service cannot represent the OP at a judicial review, they can still support him without abuse. There's no chance of that at MSE.
  • Alice_Holt
    Alice_Holt Posts: 6,094 Forumite
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    aaronlowe wrote: »
    there was such an advice agency that had the resources to represent me at tribunal. Not sure about judicial review. That might be totally different

    Indeed a judicial review is very different to a tribunal.
    My local CAB can and does represent at tribunal (with great success and with no financial cost to the client).
    It would not to able to take on a judicial review
    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
  • aaronlowe
    aaronlowe Posts: 44 Forumite
    Alice_Holt wrote: »
    Indeed a judicial review is very different to a tribunal.
    My local CAB can and does represent at tribunal (with great success and with no financial cost to the client).
    It would not to able to take on a judicial review
    Ok, the OP would still be better seeking a non abusive advisory service that isn't playing games. I doubt any lawyer would touch this case without a prior £35,000+ pre payment. This is my experience.

    If the OP could afford that kind of money they wouldn't be coming to the MSE for advice. Considering the relentless abuse they suffer in this forum I'm surprised they haven't gone elsewhere. An advisory service that specialises in helping people in this situation could support the OP in a humane way. At least they wouldn't feel alone.
  • WhenIam64
    WhenIam64 Posts: 1,052 Forumite
    Here is a guide to a JR.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/540607/administrative-court-judicial-review-guide.pdf

    Note section 23 and have £50K set aside in case it all goes wrong.

    Or seek professional help and costs protection IF you want to go forward. There is no reason for you not to go forward it is just that if you do, you need to ensure you don't get dragged into a) costs b) endless appeals or c) the wrong track.
    Unlike some here, I am not omniscient. If I am wrong correct me. I won't take offence.

    The law is like an ocean - have a swim but don't drown.
  • aaronlowe
    aaronlowe Posts: 44 Forumite
    WhenIam64 wrote: »
    and have £50K set aside in case it all goes wrong.
    Like I was saying and like the OP said, I doubt any lawyer would touch this unless they were paid more money than the OP is seeking to get compensation for (and can afford anyhow).

    I don't think people who need benefits to survive "have £50K set aside". Lol, that makes me laugh, haha. Maybe I should check in my slippers incase a spare £50k fell into them :rotfl:
  • Alice_Holt
    Alice_Holt Posts: 6,094 Forumite
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    edited 2 April 2018 at 6:04PM
    aaronlowe wrote: »
    I doubt any lawyer would touch this case without a prior £35,000+ pre payment. This is my experience.

    Indeed.
    Which is why I mooted crowdfunding. Indeed there is even a dedicated legal crowdfunding platform
    CrowdJustice:
    https://www.crowdjustice.com/
    Advocates of judicial review say such challenges are important for democracy as they hold government policy to account and expose errors of law and abuses of power. The Warboy's victims crowdfunded their judicial review. Let's hope Danday has the strength of mind to be able to follow their example and right the abuse of power he has suffered.

    If the OP is around here is some info on judicial review and crowdfunding.
    https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/events/crowdfunding-and-public-interest-judicial-review-risky-new-resource-law-reform
    https://www.thirdsector.co.uk/crowdfunding-catches-fund-judicial-reviews/governance/article/1413324
    http://publicregulatoryblog.fieldfisher.com/2018/judicial-review-crowdfunding-and-costs/
    https://www.ft.com/content/867db810-eaac-11e5-888e-2eadd5fbc4a4
    https://www.bwbllp.com/file/charityup-spring18-judreview-pdf

    If the OP uses CrowdJustice, he starts by telling his story and show what he is hoping to achieve with the funds. I'm sure he would be very good at telling his tale. It could be a nice project for him, I'm sure taking positive action to right his wrongs would be much better for his mental state, than just listing his problems on this forum. He may get a more positive reaction, too.
    What a shame the OP has left this thread (post 12).
    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
  • Ames
    Ames Posts: 18,459 Forumite
    This is getting ridiculous.

    I did try raising the issue in site feedback but no response.
    Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.
  • Alice_Holt
    Alice_Holt Posts: 6,094 Forumite
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    edited 4 April 2018 at 12:43PM
    Ames wrote: »
    I did try raising the issue in site feedback but no response.

    I await news of Danday crowding a judicial review with anticipation.
    Unfortunately he does seems to have extreme bad luck when it comes to benefits - so we shall see!

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    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Newbie
    Fifth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper I've been Money Tipped!
    edited 2 April 2018 at 8:20PM
    Ames wrote: »
    I did try raising the issue in site feedback but no response.
    I'll have a look on the feedback forum for that Ames
    I have now done that and posted a reply. Some interesting points are raised not all have easy answers.
    HTH
  • Alice_Holt wrote: »
    Ames,
    I had a message from the MSE forum team admonishing me for a post on one of Danday's other threads, and instructing me to be nice to other MSEr's.

    I've taken this slap on the wrists to heart.
    I think I have been very nice and helpful to the OP on this thread.

    I await news of Danday crowding a judicial review with anticipation.
    Unfortunately he does seems to have extreme bad luck when it comes to benefits - so we shall see!

    Alice if you ever need anyone to confirm how helpful you are on here just PM me.
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