Holiday entitlement part time workers

getmore4less

In what way are you penalised?

paddedjohn

Cheddar123 wrote: »

Thank you all for your replies. I did originally ask to work Tues Weds and Thurs but they couldn't accommodate that. Looks like I'm stuck with being penalised for working Mondays.

You aren't being penalised, the employer can choose all of your holidays if they wish

Cheddar123

Maybe penalised is the wrong word but like it was said above it's just bad luck this year a lot of the bank holidays fall on a Monday


it is just bad luck that you work more BH doing the Mondays, if you worked Tue,Wed,Thur you would use less and have more hours to allocate to other days off

Because if I have the allocation of 81 hours and 21 hours bank holidays making 102 hours. However l will be taking out of that the bank holidays being 7 at the rate of 35 hours so it means I won't have 81 hours left only 67 hours.

getmore4less

If on weeks with BH they don't need you 3 days they could just allocate one of your work days as holiday or even the full week.

coolcait

Cheddar123 wrote: »

Maybe penalised is the wrong word but like it was said above it's just bad luck this year a lot of the bank holidays fall on a Monday

it is just bad luck that you work more BH doing the Mondays, if you worked Tue,Wed,Thur you would use less and have more hours to allocate to other days off

Because if I have the allocation of 81 hours and 21 hours bank holidays making 102 hours. However l will be taking out of that the bank holidays being 7 at the rate of 35 hours so it means I won't have 81 hours left only 67 hours.

Most years, most bank holidays fall on a Monday. Most employers allocate bank holiday entitlement on a pro rata basis.

So I agree with you. If you are a part-time worker who works on Mondays, you will inevitably be disadvantaged when compared to your full-time colleagues and your part-time colleagues who don't work on Mondays.

For example, if the full-time staff work 8 hours a day, five days a week, they will be allocated 56 hours to cover the seven bank holidays. That's exactly the amount of hours they need to cover the bank holiday days off.

Part-time staff who work 5 hours a day, three days a week are allocated 21 hours to cover the seven bank holidays. However, if more than four of the bank holidays fall on days worked by the part-time staff, the bank holiday allocation won't cover the days off (unlike full-time staff, who are allocated enough hours to cover BH).

getmore4less

They still get the correct amount of holidays and pay.

the only "disadvantage" is having more allocated.

coolcait

getmore4less wrote: »

They still get the correct amount of holidays and pay.

the only "disadvantage" is having more allocated.

They get the 'correct' amount of holidays and pay based on the allocation given to them.

The allocation given to them disadvantages them when compared to their colleagues.

All staff get 'x' days of leave, exclusive of public holidays.

Full time staff also get the full amount of time needed to cover the seven days' public holidays they normally work.

The OP gets 21 hours to cover the public holidays which fall on the days he/she normally works. In 2018, that's everything but Good Friday - so six days x 5 hours = 30 hours.

The OP's employer has allocated nine hours less than the amount the OP needs to cover the bank holidays. Therefore, the OP has to take that deficit out of his/her general leave allowance.

Full-time colleagues don't have to do that. Part-time colleagues who don't work Mondays don't have to do that. The OP is disadvantaged compared to those colleagues.

getmore4less

They get the 'correct' amount of holidays and pay based on the allocation given to them.

Which is the correct amount of holidays.

BH have no special meaning in holiday law(they never have), they are just another day you get paid not to work.

The only disadvantage is the allocation of the allowance

coolcait

getmore4less wrote: »

Which is the correct amount of holidays.

BH have no special meaning in holiday law(they never have), they are just another day you get paid not to work.

The only disadvantage is the allocation of the allowance

"The only disadvantage is the allocation of the allowance"

Exactly.

If you're a part-time worker who works Mondays, you will be disadvantaged by the way bank holiday allowances are allocated.

FBaby

The issue is that you want the whole day off rather than just the 5 hours you would otherwise have worked that day. You can't benefit from working a 5 hours day, but then expect to be entitled to the 7.5 hours to be off that day.