Speeding ticket after 4 months

mattcbr

I've send a letter before hand without naming the driver. I've called today the police station and ask what is the status on my case. They said that they haven't received any letter from me (Which was sent via 1st Class RM on the 19.03) and that they will extend the period for me for another 7 days.(which was actually very cool for them to do) and I think I will give up as it's actually much way more hustle than it's worth it and I think I'll put my self on the form just to have it off my hand. There were people at the time who were driving the car from other countries so I don't know how that would work as well.
AS the old song goes "I fought the law, and the law won"...

AndyMc.....

waamo wrote: »

True but a late nomination may be better than no nomination. It may be reasonable to argue that due to the delay in receiving the NIP it took longer than usual to work out who was driving.

The CPS prefer to prosecute for the underlying offence rather than a secondary offence so a late nomination may well save the op's bacon.

Edit to say isn't the 28 days up today? If so an email followed up by a letter may be sufficient to stave off a FtF prosecution.

And your source for that is?

CPS prefer to prosecute when there’s a realistic prospect of winning. The op has just handed them that prospect.

AndyMc.....

mattcbr wrote: »

I've send a letter before hand without naming the driver. I've called today the police station and ask what is the status on my case. They said that they haven't received any letter from me (Which was sent via 1st Class RM on the 19.03) and that they will extend the period for me for another 7 days.(which was actually very cool for them to do) and I think I will give up as it's actually much way more hustle than it's worth it and I think I'll put my self on the form just to have it off my hand. There were people at the time who were driving the car from other countries so I don't know how that would work as well.
AS the old song goes "I fought the law, and the law won"...

Of course there were, in that case you should name the driver who no doubt you added onto your insurance and he was suitably licenced.


If you weren’t the driver then why are you saying you were?

You’ve lost any chance of a course and most probably looking at court rather than a ticket. Google perverting the course of justice and don’t turn it into jail time.

Aylesbury_Duck

mattcbr wrote: »

I've send a letter before hand without naming the driver. I've called today the police station and ask what is the status on my case. They said that they haven't received any letter from me (Which was sent via 1st Class RM on the 19.03) and that they will extend the period for me for another 7 days.(which was actually very cool for them to do) and I think I will give up as it's actually much way more hustle than it's worth it and I think I'll put my self on the form just to have it off my hand. There were people at the time who were driving the car from other countries so I don't know how that would work as well.
AS the old song goes "I fought the law, and the law won"...

Not really. By your own account, you're lying to the law and falsely accepting blame, not fighting it. I don't remember that old song.

Just be honest, look into which of your overseas acquaintances was driving it and notify accordingly. Your insurance records will show a shortlist of these overseas people insured on your car at the time so it shouldn't be too hard to work it out from there. Why would you want to pick up a fine and points for something you didn't do?

jimjames

mattcbr wrote: »

Thank you.
I've found it.
On mine it says that the DVLA registered me as a new owner on the 07/12/2017. Is that anything at all that I could use on my defense or that will help not at all?

When did you send the paperwork off? That sounds a long time from the date you got the car. I bought car last week and had the V5 paperwork back in 3 days

shaun_from_Africa

mattcbr wrote: »

There were people at the time who were driving the car from other countries so I don't know how that would work as well.

Were these people from other countries your family members or were they the employees of your company?
https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11838577&postcount=12

Owners of company vehicles that may have multiple drivers are expected to ensure that they have a record of who was driving a vehicle at a particular time in case of instances such as this.

TooManyPoints

...and that they will extend the period for me for another 7 days.(which was actually very cool for them to do)

Indeed it was. It was more than "cool" - it was extremely generous. You need to get your skates on. The police have until 27th April to begin court proceedings (for speeding) and will want you nominated as driver a good bit before then. If you fail to name yourself as driver very soon you will undoubtedly face a "Failing to supply driver's details" charge. The chance of a Speed Awareness Course (the usual offer for 37 in a 30) is long gone, as is the possibility of a Fixed Penalty (£100 and 3 points). The matter will be dealt with in court and you face a fine of half a week's net income (reduced by a third if you plead guilty), a surcharge of 10% of the fine (Minimum £30), £85 costs and three points.

All the other gumpf about V5C dates etc are academic now. The only way you can have this dealt with at minimum cost and aggravation to you is to name yourself as driver asap.

Aylesbury_Duck

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect the OP won't be back to answer the questions posed. I don't think it's gone quite the way he wanted it to and now people are asking awkward questions.

Mercdriver

mattcbr wrote: »

I've already sent a letter to the police station saying that I don't know who the driver was at that time as it is too far away for me to remember to to investigate.
I'm up to a point where I will be able to accept the £100 fine but I'm not willing to take the 3 points to be added to my driving licence.

How I can go around this ?

You're going the right way to get 6 points and an endorsement that insurance companies load up massively for. You'll have to try harder than that to defend a failure to furnish in court. The price of failure is very high - look at costs of £620 PLUS fine and victim surcharge. People will often fail to name themselves to get off serious offences like dangerous driving or careless, so insurance companies ask why someone would think the best option is to fail to name. You won't get around the 3 points and you don't have long before they will summons you. Your best option is the 3 points + £100 fine. You won't get a better offer...

Mercdriver

mattcbr wrote: »

I've send a letter before hand without naming the driver. I've called today the police station and ask what is the status on my case. They said that they haven't received any letter from me (Which was sent via 1st Class RM on the 19.03) and that they will extend the period for me for another 7 days.(which was actually very cool for them to do) and I think I will give up as it's actually much way more hustle than it's worth it and I think I'll put my self on the form just to have it off my hand. There were people at the time who were driving the car from other countries so I don't know how that would work as well.
AS the old song goes "I fought the law, and the law won"...

If you are the registered keeper and you named a foreign driver you could find yourself in deep water also regrading insurance. Namely whether they were insured to drive and if not that you were permitting them to drive uninsured. £300 fixed penalty 6 points and a struggle to hire cars or any other vehicles at mainstream companies - most of which won't rent a car to someone with an insurance related endorsement.

Would you like a bigger spade for that hole you're digging?