Missing relatives and will

251Fran

Hello all you lovely people.

I've got a couple of questions that I'm hoping you can help me with. I will phone up and ask for advice, but would appreciate your thoughts

My dad died recently in his 90s. A copy of his will was sent to the court of protection when registering as a deputy. However, after house moves etc, the original cannot be located. Everything was to be split evenly between his children and is unlikely to be contested by any of us. What can we do?

My dad was the youngest in a large family that live abroad. It's been bad enough remembering all of his siblings and their children, but the probate forms asks for details of aunts and uncles and I've no idea. These were never part of our family when we were growin up so we have no knowledge of any of them and I'm not sure that the surviving relatives will know any of the details.

Any useful suggestions?

Thank you

Keep_pedalling

Providing he did not have a wife when he died the rule of intestacy will split the proceeds of the estate exactly as the will would, so if it does not turn up you can apply for letters of administration without the will.

If the will was written by a solicitor then they are still likely to hold the original.

Flugelhorn

I think you will find that the form only asks for aunts and uncles if there are no parents / children / siblings

Keep_pedalling

Flugelhorn wrote: »

I think you will find that the form only asks for aunts and uncles if there are no parents / children / siblings

No it asks regardless, but in this case I would simply make a best guess, it will make no difference to the outcome.

Flugelhorn

Keep_pedalling wrote: »

No it asks regardless, but in this case I would simply make a best guess, it will make no difference to the outcome.

actually section 5.3 of the PA1 form (uncles / aunts etc) says :

Note 5.3 !!!8211; This section
should only be completed
if no relatives have been
entered in section 5.2.

SevenOfNine

Flugelhorn is correct.

5.1 'No' to surviving spouse/civil partner.
Complete block 5.2a to 5.2c then move on to Q6 all as described in the notes at the side.

We completed FiL's with only the 2 sons & skipped on to no. 6 have just received the oath, no problems.

Keep_pedalling

Flugelhorn wrote: »

actually section 5.3 of the PA1 form (uncles / aunts etc) says :

Apologies for my error.

251Fran

Thank you everyone. It looks like it's not as bad as I thought

Tom99

Keep_pedalling wrote: »

Apologies for my error.

The form has only recently been changed to add that comment, I looked at the form I completed last year and its missing.

SevenOfNine

Tom99 wrote: »

The form has only recently been changed to add that comment, I looked at the form I completed last year and its missing.

In 2012 & 2016 regarding aunts, uncles (section B6a) & grandparents (section B5) the form notes say "Sections B5 and B6 only need to be completed if the deceased had no relatives in Section B1 - B4 (B2a is the sons/daughters).

Flugelhorn would still be correct even back then, it's the section letters/numbers that changed, not the instruction.

Tom99

SevenOfNine wrote: »

In 2012 & 2016 regarding aunts, uncles (section B6a) & grandparents (section B5) the form notes say "Sections B5 and B6 only need to be completed if the deceased had no relatives in Section B1 - B4 (B2a is the sons/daughters).

Flugelhorn would still be correct even back then, it's the section letters/numbers that changed, not the instruction.

You may well be right as far as 2012 and 2016 are concerned but the form available in Jan 2017 had no such notice against Section 5.3.