London ULEZ

cool-dog

mikeyranson wrote: »

I'm having a rant hat what i want to do is being made illegal. I have a need for the car that i have to transport lots of tools, materials and equipment but at the same time, the comfort as dealing with london traffic. I do use public transport as much as i can but not always practicable. What alot of people dont understand from a drivers point of view is how worse the streets of london have been made by the placement of cycle lanes. Taking traffic lanes out from two or even three lanes down to one lane has significantly increased pollution by standing traffic. There is a massive amount of cyclists who still ignore the cycle lanes and still ride on the roads causing traffic chaos and also putting their own safety at risk.
I have three years grace before i need to replace my car. I had intentions of keeping my range for another four years as it is a damn good car and fault free. But now being forced to replace it earlier than i intended to but will replace it for another 4x4. No need to go 4 ltr or 5 ltr, as i have no need for a big engine. another 3 ltr will be sufficient and LR do produce a 2 ltr sport so i will look into that even, as long as it has power, i'll be happy.
The government, TFL and that loser mayor Khan we have ended up with (must have been voting corruption there somewhere) have no clue on the reality of the world we live in. To cut down on pollution, you need to synchronise lights to make traffic flow, widen junctions not make them smaller, so less cars can get through a junction and make sequences longer so more traffic can flow through them. Hauliers will refuse to enter london due to the excessive charges and soon the shelves will be empty.

I think you will find those things were started by that loser Boris, but hes a tory so doesn't get the same flak.
How much did he waste on the 'garden bridge'?

RichardD1970

How about the new PHEV Range Rover?

https://www.landrover.co.uk/vehicles/phev/index.html

They reckon it will do 30 miles fully electric.

mikeyranson

RichardD1970 wrote: »

How about the new PHEV Range Rover?

https://www.landrover.co.uk/vehicles/phev/index.html

They reckon it will do 30 miles fully electric.

If it was ten grand cheaper, i would buy it. I think the government should pay that extra ten grand for me so i can keep my luxury.

Norman_Castle

mikeyranson wrote: »

I'm having a rant hat what i want to do is being made illegal. I have a need for the car that i have to transport lots of tools, materials and equipment but at the same time, the comfort as dealing with london traffic.

You're sulking because you can't have what you want. Most ordinary people manage without an oversize 4x4, why can't you?

Norman_Castle

mikeyranson wrote: »

[According to the owner of a Range Rover],To cut down on pollution,you need to synchronise lights to make traffic flow, widen junctions not make them smaller, so less cars can get through a junction and make sequences longer so more traffic can flow through them.

Alternately, you could reduce the number of vehicles by making it more expensive and less convenient for them and improving the alternatives.

AdrianC

mikeyranson wrote: »

I'm having a rant hat what i want to do is being made illegal

It isn't. It's just being made a little more expensive, to dissuade you and those like you who insist on using wholly inappropriate, highly-polluting vehicles.

No need to go 4 ltr or 5 ltr, as i have no need for a big engine. another 3 ltr will be sufficient

Thought you said you had a 2010 RR diesel? If so, then it's a TDV8, either one of the last 3.6s (Euro 4 emissions), or one of the first 4.4s (Euro 5a). The 3.0 TD6 (Euro 3) was discontinued in 2005.

...that loser mayor Khan we have ended up with (must have been voting corruption there somewhere)

Really? Do you really think Zac Goldsmith was a more compelling candidate (even that's without considering the utterly lamentable campaign he ran)? I think we can safely assume you weren't a Sian Berry supporter...



First round - 1.15m Khan, 909k Goldsmith, 150k Berry
Second round - 1.31m Khan, 995k Goldsmith.

(To put that into perspective, Johnson received 970k in 2012 and 1.17m in 2008 2nd round, while Livingstone got 828k in 2004 2nd round and 776k in 2000 2nd round.)

Maybe you're just a bit out-of-step with your fellow residents?

Hauliers will refuse to enter london due to the excessive charges and soon the shelves will be empty.

Ummm, you do realise that the LEZ has applied to goods vehicles since 2008, right? And that discouraging non-essential private vehicles will enable essential commercial vehicles to move more easily?

JP1978

Bigphil1474 wrote: »

......and the 1000's of deaths each year due to poor air quality would continue to rise - something like 40,000 deaths per year are linked to air quality in the UK, and London will account for a big chunk of them. Put another way, 1 in every 10 deaths in this country (in 2015) was due to air pollution - and you're whinging that you might have to stop driving your range rover. .

While I am pretty sure that the OP is a wind up (I thought schools were not on holiday), the 40,000 deaths cited are generally accepted as people dying earlier than their usual life expectancy due to excessive inhalation of emissions.

Johno100

JP1978 wrote: »

While I am pretty sure that the OP is a wind up (I thought schools were not on holiday), the 40,000 deaths cited are generally accepted as people dying earlier than their usual life expectancy due to excessive inhalation of emissions.

That could just be a few days or a week at the end of a long life. It is is all theoretical.

agrinnall

The Stig driving the Top Gear tractor at a (unofficial I'd say) world record 87 m.p.h. on last Sunday's episode. Probably not suitable for use inside the North/South Circular though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m18f8gqApI

Bigphil1474

From what I recall, the 40k figure is based on 340k people who have attributed shorter life due to air pollution, which is condensed into 40k equivalent deaths. Definitely a statistical analysis thing rather than 40k death certificates, but seems to be based on those people losing around 8 years of their life due to poor air quality, particularly in big cities.