If this sufficient joist support?

housereflady

I got a quick question please: I have builders who have installed floor joists for my bathroom, but I noticed that the joist that holds all the other joists (and hangers) is only held to the wall by 6 screws

Additionally, this joist does not go into the wall at either end

The area where this joist is held to the wall would hold the bath (50kg, + 200-300kg of water+ 80kg person + 100kg wall and tiles = roughly 500kg)

If this joist sufficient to hold it up?

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silvercar

housereflady

thank you for helping me, i do not have allowance to upload pictures

Doozergirl

What did your structural engineer specify? Yoy should have sight of the calcs and drawings.

Building Control also need to see that. Have they?

What are the three concrete lintels resting on? How thick is that end wall they're going into?

The wall above looks horrid and insecure. That needs tying in to the back wall and repairing properly.

You really shouldn't be asking us. I'm not confident about how the whole things look, tbh, but I'm not qualified and it's exactly why you hire professionals.

Send the pics to your structural engineer or get them in tomorrow.

stator

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brightontraveller

Have you seen engineers calcs etc post online (I really cant see there will be any or there following them )or that building control have even seen works ...

Furts

I can see so many problems in the photos it is almost impossible to know where to start - everything is suspect. Even your question is crazy - only you know what gauge screws were used, made of what metal, manufactured at what length, drilled and plugged with what plugs, to what depth, then tightened to what extent? None of us forum users can answer a single point here because we have no information and we have not inspected the work.

Do not go online for structural calculations - you need somebody at your building works taking a cool reflection on what is going on.

You need immediate dialogue with your Building Inspector, you need immediate dialogue with your builders and you need a personal reality check. Ask yourself if you are really capable of managing, inspecting and controlling the work.

Finally remember your legal duties under the CDM Regulations. If anything goes wrong on your building works you will end up in court. If you get let off lightly it will be a substantial fine, if you do not then you are explaining a fatality. You are allowing no decking, no fall protection, no visible Acrow props, no wall supporting, no visible stitching or tieing ... enough said, but all round these observations conjure up an overall picture .

Remember the golden rule. Cowboy builders work for cowboy clients. Decide where you stand with this statement. Then decide if you wish to move forward.

Doozergirl

I think the OP did read my reply last night, at least. It would be nice if you could answer some of the questions about how this was approached. Hopefully you'll be on the phone to the structural engineer this morning and let us know how you get on as I'm a bit worried.

EachPenny

Furts wrote: »

Finally remember your legal duties under the CDM Regulations. If anything goes wrong on your building works you will end up in court. If you get let off lightly it will be a substantial fine, if you do not then you are explaining a fatality. You are allowing no decking, no fall protection, no visible Acrow props, no wall supporting, no visible stitching or tieing ... enough said, but all round these observations conjure up an overall picture.

I agree with Doozergirl and Furts, especially on the CDM point as this work has the appearance of a job being done with little regard to safety.

The existing walls are little more than rubble, which makes expert professional advice essential. Just the way the concrete lintels have been embedded into the wall makes me worry, the bearing capacity of the wall they are supported by has to be questioned, especially as it appears to be the point where the original building and an extension (?) meet giving the potential for differential settlement.

If work hasn't been stopped and professional advice sought already then I'd be very concerned.

FreeBear

EachPenny wrote: »

The existing walls are little more than rubble, which makes expert professional advice essential. Just the way the concrete lintels have been embedded into the wall makes me worry,

I'm seeing what looks like solid brick walls (Flemish bond ?) with signs that a chimney has been removed (pronounced soot marks in the last image). Possibly a Victorian build with a later single story addition to the rear. Don't see any pad stones under the lintels, and some pretty slapdash cement work - Certainly one area for concern...