Wickes kitchen quote. Any feedback appreciated!

Amanda_Cm

Is just crazy to pay this amount of money for small kitchen like that. The only expensive thing is the worktop really.
What about splashback?

Gowardo

Amanda_Cm wrote: »

Is just crazy to pay this amount of money for small kitchen like that. The only expensive thing is the worktop really.
What about splashback?

Hey Amanda, thanks for following up again.

The kitchen is comprised of about 18 units and spans 4 meters by 3 plus a relatively large island, which would fill most average sized rooms.

I suspect it looks small to you as it is in the corner there, however the room you see it in is 10 meters by 10 meters so if you look at it that way, the kitchen is relatively large. Does that make sense?

Please do come back and let me know if you have any further thoughts though, always useful.

If you still think it's expensive, I'd certainly like to hear why...

Cheers

Beardmidget

Yes it’s not insane, I just think you could do a bit better than the all in price...

My work surface was 2k all in and includes the waterfall sides on the island and what you probably can’t see is that there is work surface on top of the ovens in case a giant wants to chop some veg.

I’m also pretty surprised at the ikea quote- only because ours also has a full height larder cupboard behind the camera so it is 15 units and includes the relatively expensive steel door and drawer fronts in that price above.

I wonder- did you check the ikea quote again because when I initially did mine their software just automatically adds the appliances, work surface, sink, taps etc. And were on the price (which needed deleting because I wanted Miele (and don’t regret it even though they were pricey- £2500 for my ovens and hob), and to pick sink etc speparately. The other thing is to check if they charge in that quote for the fitting.

Beardmidget

Maybe some people aren!!!8217;t realising that there!!!8217;s an island in there- it!!!8217;s not just a floor with a hob?

Doozergirl

Gowardo wrote: »

Hey there, thanks for your response!

Both DIY kitchens and IKEA (apparently the two most affordable in terms of quality/price ratio according to a 2017 study by Which.co.uk) come up to about 7.8k for units only.

It's easy to see it as a small kitchen as it's set up in a massive room (10m x 10m) but it is about 17 units including the island, so relatively large.

Take into account above the wine cooler and to the right of the extractor there will be open shelving to line up with the end of the run, so we are thinking about symmetry. It was more important for us to line up the island symmetrically to both sides of the "L" (1 meter distance from the units) and less important to line it with the end of the run, but I take your point and will think about that, thanks!

- Take your point about moving the Fridge to the left, that's not a bad idea, however it seems a bit annoying to have to walk back and forth as we will probably be cooking between the island and cooker at all times.

- We had the wine cooler in the island originally, but decided to move it out due to the fact that we needed space for the dishwasher and pan storage, it's all a bit of a labour of stress and love, but I do hear what you're saying so thanks for the advice.

Does the above make sense? Feel free to provide any further advice if you're up to it!

Thanks! :T

It's a big room. The design is compromised and there is simply no need for it to be. You have almost completely free rein on what to put in there and how it lays out. I can understand that there are limitations in a small kitchen but you don't have that.

You've just told everyone how big it is, but then you're still trying to squash things into place. Pan drawers and dishwashers go by the hob and the sink. You have a huge dead run facing into the room. Wine is specifically displayed in a cooler and is most handily accessed from the dining area so it would make sense to have it facing out into the room. It doesn't need to hide under an overhang, some units can be sat forward. A decent designer would be able to make it look good instinctively.

Putting the fridge next to the corner unit can bring the cooker down towards the corner unit to be lined up with the sink. There is still plenty of room to manouvre and operate the magic triangle.

That kitchen hasn't been designed by a designer and I would personally be disappointed with it, given the space available.

The internet is full of images of beautiful big kitchens with layouts that can be copied, even if the unit design isn't what you like. I'd get onto Pinterest, personally and start looking at what well designed kitchens look like.

Gowardo

Beardmidget wrote: »

Yes it’s not insane, I just think you could do a bit better than the all in price...

My work surface was 2k all in and includes the waterfall sides on the island and what you probably can’t see is that there is work surface on top of the ovens in case a giant wants to chop some veg.

I’m also pretty surprised at the ikea quote- only because ours also has a full height larder cupboard behind the camera so it is 15 units and includes the relatively expensive steel door and drawer fronts in that price above.

I wonder- did you check the ikea quote again because when I initially did mine their software just automatically adds the appliances, work surface, sink, taps etc. And were on the price (which needed deleting because I wanted Miele (and don’t regret it even though they were pricey- £2500 for my ovens and hob), and to pick sink etc speparately. The other thing is to check if they charge in that quote for the fitting.

Really useful thanks mate I'll check the quote from IKEA and DIY again!

Gowardo

Doozergirl wrote: »

It's a big room. The design is compromised and there is simply no need for it to be. You have almost completely free rein on what to put in there and how it lays out. I can understand that there are limitations in a small kitchen but you don't have that.

You've just told everyone how big it is, but then you're still trying to squash things into place. Pan drawers and dishwashers go by the hob and the sink. You have a huge dead run facing into the room. Wine is specifically displayed in a cooler and is most handily accessed from the dining area so it would make sense to have it facing out into the room. It doesn't need to hide under an overhang, some units can be sat forward. A decent designer would be able to make it look good instinctively.

Putting the fridge next to the corner unit can bring the cooker down towards the corner unit to be lined up with the sink. There is still plenty of room to manouvre and operate the magic triangle.

That kitchen hasn't been designed by a designer and I would personally be disappointed with it, given the space available.

The internet is full of images of beautiful big kitchens with layouts that can be copied, even if the unit design isn't what you like. I'd get onto Pinterest, personally and start looking at what well designed kitchens look like.

Hey! Thanks again for taking the time to respond.

I've taken most of your feedback on board and it will probably end up changing our design slightly, however do take into account the room is big yes, but we need to account for 'quadrants' within it for dining/sitting/etc so the kitchen is relatively (key word here being relatively...) set into its own corner. We had originally even though about having it as a big straight long run, but didn't like the look of it.

Funnily enough this was put together by a designer, and lots of thought has gone into the triangle and storage (most of it learnt from Pintrest :P) but yes you do make a couple of good points especially with it being a little cornered up in there.

I'll have another look and see whether I can make it more open - however do take into account to each side there will be shelving, so it will be relatively symmetrical.

Anyway, thanks again for your advice and if you think of anything else, of course please do say - super helpful.

Cheers

Doozergirl

I've just checked and I did a 17 unit Ikea kitchen for a friend at the end of 2016 and the units came to £3186. It was one of their more epxensive doors too. I purchased mirostone worktops separately from a trade supplier.

Another kitchen in 2011 was 13 units and £4000 including two ovens, microwave, dishwasher and hob.

£8k is a lot.

maisie_cat

Lot's of the costs of a kitchen are fitting and the "convenience" of using one supplier. If you are reasonably skilled you can save a fortune. Our kitchen, bought 10 years ago is solid wood bespoke units £5k plus painting £1k, worktops £2-3k and the sink, smeg range cooker and fridge another £5k. We fitted, well actually placed the units in place as they were exactly the same as a chest of drawers. the tops fitted by the supplier and £200 for electrics.

hazyjo

As has been mentioned - the one main niggle for me is that wine cooler on its own at the end of a run of tall units. I'd have either a freestanding American style FF there, or a smeg one or something attractive. Gives you future choice rather than having to have an exact same size one to fit into a gap. Or another tall larder type unit, or built in FF. Really don't like freestanding !!!!!! in gaps, but maybe that's just personal choice. The wine cooler just looks wrong (as mentioned, like an afterthought). Should be neatly built in somewhere. Would be much more streamlined to match the tall units.


Personally I'd prefer the hob in the island rather than the sink but again, personal choice. Would rather talk to my guests or family while cooking rather than washing up (although presume you'll have a dishwasher). Also agree about it lining up better - sink opposite hob. That whole island would look better opposite the low height units (where the oven is).


I would have had all the tall units on that short wall (maybe with a dresser type one in the middle) and all low units on the other. No corner ones.