Hospital employee parking charge

Coupon-mad

Get your employer to get it cancelled.

It was my employer who issued it

We know, and these are cancelled all the time by Facilities Managers at Hospitals.

WombatNo1

Thank you for all replies, I have a couple of queries and have tried to find answers in the NEWBIES faq sticky but not very succesfully.
a) The vehicle was parked on hatchings so technically incorrectly but the hospital appeal system states

Vehicle Drivers Guide to Appealing a Penalty Charge Notice
When can you appeal?
An appeal can be made to the parking team with 28 days of having received a Penalty Charge Notice. Appeals will not be considered after this time.
What are the Grounds for Appeal?
There are two grounds for appeal that will be considered by the appeals panel;
That the notice was not correctly applied. You believe that you were parked appropriately and had not contravened any of the Trusts parking regulations.
That there were exceptional circumstances that led you to park in a way with contravened the Trusts parking regulations

b) the thing that struck me most about these instructions and the template to be completed was that they state Penalty Notice where it was actually a Parking Charge Notice and also to be completed by driver meaning that in completing it you acknowledge that you were driving.

The threads I've searched all relate to parking companies operating in hospital car parks or to patients/visitors charges.
c) I have checked this morning and the Trust isn't listed as a member on either IPC or BPA.
d) just to confuse the issue the car is leased via the MyCar scheme and payment for the lease is made directly from salary.

The simplest thing would just be to pay but I don't want to

fisherjim

Calling it a "penalty charge" notice is a misrepresentation of authority, I would report them to trading standards.

nosferatu1001

If it is their land they dont need to be an ATA member.

Lease car - then you appeal AS KEEPER to the notice. You just state YOU ARE THE KEEPER and thats it. They cannot then claim they can "assume" you were teh driver.

Indeed, calling it a penalty charge is a misrepresentation of authority. Trading standards.

WombatNo1

Sorry to be vague but still not very clear on what I should do?

I have read the NEWBIES sticky post and looked at the template but it really isn't relevant. The hospital owns the land, the car was on yellow hatchings but not in anyway hazardous/obstructive. They already have my details as they hand out the permits (not sure if they could use the info gleaned that way?).

My argument is really that if it hadn't been parked that way their patients wouldn't have been seen, or at least would have had to wait until a space became available.

With regard to the fact that they stuck a "parking notice" on the car and the appeal process calls it a "Penalty notice"; is there anyway I can use this to my benefit?
Thank you again for any assistance.

The_Deep

Have you seen this?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nhs-patient-visitor-and-staff-car-parking-principles/nhs-patient-visitor-and-staff-car-parking-principles

Fruitcake

Is it this lot?

https://www.hampshirehospitals.nhs.uk/work-with-us/jobs/benefits.aspx

It says several times that staff parking is free, and that the trust cares about its staff in both the staff and nurses sections. It says they understand how stressful the job can be.

I think that the current situation the OP finds themselves in must be very stressful, a situation brought on as a result of the hospital's actions.

Coupon-mad

WombatNo1 wrote: »

Sorry to be vague but still not very clear on what I should do?

I have read the NEWBIES sticky post and looked at the template but it really isn't relevant. The hospital owns the land, the car was on yellow hatchings but not in anyway hazardous/obstructive. They already have my details as they hand out the permits (not sure if they could use the info gleaned that way?).

My argument is really that if it hadn't been parked that way their patients wouldn't have been seen, or at least would have had to wait until a space became available.

With regard to the fact that they stuck a "parking notice" on the car and the appeal process calls it a "Penalty notice"; is there anyway I can use this to my benefit?
Thank you again for any assistance.

Just use the NEWBIES thread template, it DOES apply and is carefully worded, and designed to be submitted on day 26, NOT SOONER, by the keeper (NOT DRIVER) for the very good reasons explained in the sticky.

There is method in the (Coupon) madness. :cool:

WombatNo1

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Just use the NEWBIES thread template, it DOES apply and is carefully worded, and designed to be submitted on day 26, NOT SOONER, by the keeper (NOT DRIVER) for the very good reasons explained in the sticky.

There is method in the (Coupon) madness. :cool:

Hi Coupon'

I appreciate that someone has gone to a lot of trouble to create this template and I am also aware that I am nothing special and my issue is probably not unique but I (despite being reasonably intelligent) am having difficulty seeing the relevance of the template... Also this is my employer I'm dealing with and my 14 days are up tomorrow

Dear Sir/Madam,

Re PCN number:

I am the keeper of the vehicle which received this purported 'parking charge'. There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. I am not liable and I believe that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis. Your unremarkable and obscure signs are in small print and the onerous terms are not readable.Yellow hatching was visible

Should you fail to cancel this PCN immediately, I require the following information with your template rejection:

1. Does your charge represent damages for breach of contract? Answer yes or no.
2. Please provide dated photos of the signs that you say were on site, which you contend formed a contract.again, yellow hatchings
3. Please provide all photographs taken of this vehicle.

I am alarmed by your contact and I do not give you consent to process any data relating to me, or this vehicle. I deny liability and will not respond to debt collectors. You must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA, and should you fail to respond accordingly, your company will be reported to the Information Commissioner.

I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and will also be making a formal complaint to your client landowner.The company/hospital is the landowner

If you are a current BPA member, send me a POPLA code. If you are an IPC firm, cease and desist with all contact.A previous post stated that private landowners don't require BPA membership

Yours faithfully,

Fruitcake

Get the idea about the yellow hatchings out of your head. It is not relevant and you should delete it from all of your posts.

We are trying to help you but you keep trying to put obstacles in your own way.

Please, just send the template exactly as it is, from the keeper, at day 26.