Employer asking me to work Weekend + Mon-Fri

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

scd3scd4 wrote: »

Never mind Dan, if your boss decides its ok to now do a weekend every other month or every month. There are some great communicators on here that will think you are still being well compensated. Lord help them from themselves! :T:rotfl:

I don't know if he is being well compensated. Neither do you. You are the one assuming he isn't. I am not assuming he is.

How many times do I have to say the same thing to you?

scd3scd4

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

I don't know if he is being well compensated. Neither do you. You are the one assuming he isn't. I am not assuming he is.

How many times do I have to say the same thing to you?

I know he does not think he is, and after reading what he posted as per hes contract, I agree.

That is enough for me......what you think is irrelevant to me.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

scd3scd4 wrote: »

I know he does not think he is, that is enough for me......

And that is your problem.

Complaining to your employer about unreasonable treatment when you are not being treated unreasonably, but only think you are, is very counterproductive. He needs to establish if he is, in fact, being treated unreasonably. That's why your advice is poor. I know you can't understand that.

Wait..you edited... you think having a contract that says you are expected to work some weekends is in itself unreasonable? You don't understand the professional world, at all. You've never worked in it, clearly. It's standard. Complaining about it would make him look a fool IF he has such a job.

Now we don't know what job he does, or how much he gets paid, so we don't know if it's standard for him.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Perhaps this will help you.

In most professional jobs you don't get paid for overtime.

Instead of waiting to see if there is any "overtime" and paying you afterwards, they assume there will be "overtime", if appropriate, and factor this into your annual salary.

If the salary is not enough for you to do the job including "overtime" then you refuse the job or ask for more.

If you accept the job and then refuse to do any "overtime" then you can say goodbye to future pay rises or promotions, at the least.

Is that clearer?

And once again, to help you understand, I am not saying he has this type of job. We don't know. But you can't assume he doesn't and his contract suggests that he does.

scd3scd4

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

And that is your problem.

Complaining to your employer about unreasonable treatment when you are not being treated unreasonably, but only think you are, is very counterproductive. He needs to establish if he is, in fact, being treated unreasonably. That's why your advice is poor. I know you can't understand that.

Wait..you edited... you think having a contract that says you are expected to work some weekends is in itself unreasonable? You don't understand the professional world, at all. You've never worked in it, clearly. It's standard. Complaining about it would make you look a fool.

Now we don't know what job he does, or how much he gets paid, so we don't know if it's standard for him.

You are trying a strawman arguments and failing.

I never said the contract does not say he has to work. I argued it does not say he cannot be compensated or at least get the time in lieu. You wrongly argument salaried staff don't.

I recommended both sucking up the odd weekend and speaking to hes manager about the above. You missed all that. I also asked what was explained at hes interview. Not sure what's poor in that advise.

Professional world??....no I dont sell stuff. I work in an industry of engineers, chemists, tradesmen amount others.

Ohh and give the insults a rest, its childish and just makes you sound like an impetuous child who can not get their own way.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

scd3scd4 wrote: »

You are trying a strawman arguments and failing.

I never said the contract does not say he has to work. I argued it does not say he cannot be compensated or at least get the time in lieu. You wrongly argument salaried staff don't.

I recommended both sucking up the odd weekend and speaking to hes manager about the above. You missed all that. Not sure what's poor in that advise.

Professional world??....no I dont sell stuff. I work in an industry of engineers, chemists, tradesmen amount others.

Ohh and give the insults a rest, its childish and just makes you sound like an impetuous child who can not get their own way.

What insults do you see there? Because there aren't any. If you mean "make you look a fool" it ought to have been obvious to anyone that that is a generic "you" meaning "the person complaining"...you are not going to be complaining, he is. I had edited it however, to make it perfectly clear, as I did worry you might misread it, given previous experience.

Incidentally "professional" doesn't mean "sell stuff". Engineers are professional. Chemists are professional. Look the word up.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

scd3scd4 wrote: »

I never said the contract does not say he has to work. I argued it does not say he cannot be compensated or at least get the time in lieu. You wrongly argument salaried staff don't.

Oh, and quote the point at which I did that. Not where I said salaried staff "might" not, where I said they don't.

scd3scd4

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

What insults do you see there? Because there aren't any. If you mean "make you look a fool" it ought to have been obvious to anyone that that is a generic "you" meaning "the person complaining"...you are not going to be complaining, he is. I had edited it however, to make it perfectly clear, as I did worry you might misread it, given previous experience.

Incidentally "professional" doesn't mean "sell stuff". Engineers are professional. Chemists are professional. Look the word up.

You don't understand the professional world, at all. You've never worked in it, clearly. It's standard. Complaining about it would make him look a fool IF he has such a job.



lol

I knew what the world meant, you were confused. In implying there were none in the oil industry. Ohhh and many are salaried but still get paid overtime!!

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

scd3scd4 wrote: »

lol

I knew what the world meant, you were confused. In implying there were none in the oil industry. Ohhh and many are salaried but still get paid overtime!!

I know you are desperate to be right.............but its not supported by the facts.

How did I imply there were none in the oil industry? I said you don't work in the professional world. You may work in the same industry as professionals, it would be be almost impossible not to, especially in a multi billion dollar industry. There are accountants in oil as well I am sure.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

scd3scd4 wrote: »

lol

I knew what the world meant, you were confused. In implying there were none in the oil industry. Ohhh and many are salaried but still get paid overtime!!

Frankly this is a waste of bandwidth now. Feel free to post a final rant, I promise I won't reply unless you claim I have said something I haven't, again.