Bought a very sick puppy

Red-Squirrel_2

bertiewhite wrote: »

They're bold statements, gained from just a couple of posts.

They've admitted they wouldn't be paying to treat the pup if they did take it back, so I'm happy to stand by my judgement.

adandem

bertiewhite wrote: »

so how do you know this? Can you find out who the original vet was and ask them yourself?

I'm assuming the details would be on the vaccination record?
What a terrible situation, not going to change anything but how did you source the breeder? Did you do any research on them prior to getting your puppy? It may help to find out what type of breeders they are, a legal case might threaten any future trade. I would hazard a guess that the pups parents weren't screened or health checked.
You could also contact the Kennel Club, they are meant to promote ethical breeding and welfare.
Hope you can find a solution.
The only thing I would say, as hard as it is, just be prepared to know when enough is enough for the puppy.

Greenlady

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

Have you got something in writing from the other vet confirming that they found the murmur (and had told the breeder about it) before she sold the puppy to you?

Yes, I have the records from the breeders vets, which had to be sent to our vets as our vets needed previous history for their information and to send to insurer. I have it in black & white. The insurer has now refused to cover any expenses on the basis that he has a pre-existing condition (shocking that the insurance isn't bothered that they were lied to, but I guess it's all about the money - I thought Kennel Club meant security. Nope. We were left on our own).

Greenlady

adandem wrote: »

I'm assuming the details would be on the vaccination record?
What a terrible situation, not going to change anything but how did you source the breeder? Did you do any research on them prior to getting your puppy? It may help to find out what type of breeders they are, a legal case might threaten any future trade. I would hazard a guess that the pups parents weren't screened or health checked.
You could also contact the Kennel Club, they are meant to promote ethical breeding and welfare.
Hope you can find a solution.
The only thing I would say, as hard as it is, just be prepared to know when enough is enough for the puppy.

I have contacted Kennel Club who assured me they'd launch an investigation.

I wanted a Labrador but never went looking for ads or anything (felt I should really get a rescue, etc - we had a Lab x Collie that looked almost 100% Labrador, and when it comes to cross breeds you just can't get another one of the same look easily as they all vary so much (it was a moment of weakness of wanting to have a similar dog, that's all).

Long story short, someone came across someone whose dog was having a litter of Labradors (the words Kennel Club registred, 5 weeks free insurance, vaccinated felt very reassuring). The contact wasn't even for me, it was for smeone else. I half heartedly enquired (still struggling with loss of previous one). We met the parents, paid two visits.

So, no, not enough homework was done. I didn't even think so much homework needed to be done (too late now). Parents were not checked.

The puppy is happy. He's playful but has less stamina than a healthy puppy. He had a couple of very lethargic days. Bottom line, he seems unaware.

We spoke to specialist and we were surprised to hear that they think that by placing a stent on his heart this will give him a close to normal life (initially they said two operations, but now seem to think this one will allow him to have a normal life).

I'm sort of skeptical but I'm reassured by different sources he is in the hands of the best professionals.

Greenlady

TBagpuss wrote: »

Very difficult situation. IS the dog registered with the kennel club? If so, then it might be worth contacting them, if only to let them know.

You can speak to a solicitor to see whether you would be entitled to claim back from the breeder the money you have spent so far, however I suspect that because they have offered to take back the puppy and refund you, you wouldn't be able to claim any future costs.

I contacted solicitor today and I expect you could be right.

However, I'm hoping that the fact that there was an intention to deceive us, the insurance and continue the farce even after they found he was ill, gives us grounds to sue. (Written statements such as "vet checked him and he was OK").

It's one thing a breeder finding out they sold a sick puppy. It's quite another knowing beforehand and setting up insurance with false information. Just giving him back won't do.

adandem

I hope they can sort him out with the stent, that would be great news. Everything crossed.

Aced2016

This is so sad I'm really sorry for you ! Here's hoping this operation goes well and he brings you years of joy.

In all fairness this is happening to often, my mother in law and sister in law have been breeding their poor little dogs to the extent of 3 litters in 12 months. It's disgusting hence why I take little to do with them. Sadly these people just see £ signs at everyone else's expense.

The law needs to get tougher as its far to common now. I would seek legal advice to recoup money, as her outgoings are very little to care for the pups so what has she done with the money for all the other puppies ?

And the fact that she bare faced lied about this is vile ! Horrible woman and not a responsible dog breeder !

teddysmum

The KC is not interested in much except income; even their accredited breeders have the status by self certification (I knew someone who got one in hot water after filming and getting vet backup that they had cruel practices and didn't do the 'mandatory' health testing).


They were not interested when a work friend showed that someone was falsifying pedigree papers (One dog of her breeding and one I bought from this person ) and took years to be convinced that puppy farmers were making out impossible pedigrees ( it's impossible for two Blenheim cavaliers to produce a litter of all four of the breed's colour patterns;they can only produce Blenheims ie red and white) ,but they now ban certain applications .


However, I believe the KC does have rules about how many litters a female is allowed to produce in a timescale (one per year?) and should refuse any extra applications for registration

Greenlady

I already got legal advice and I'm also taking this to the media (my next task). Need to see who I'm taking this, to.

They wrote they don't have money to compensate us. Let a judge decide that now.

But, as I dig deeper yes, this is happening more and more often, sadly.

It was my first pedigree purchase and it's my last. I sincerely thought I was with people Kennel Club approved and therefore I was not fueling puppy farming type of practices. I visited them twice before coming over to pick him up, they volunteered even before we asked that the vet was so happy with him and he was doing well. As legal advisor said, we couldn't have done much more to ascertain we were getting a healthy pup .

Red-Squirrel_2

Greenlady wrote: »

I already got legal advice and I'm also taking this to the media (my next task). Need to see who I'm taking this, to.

They wrote they don't have money to compensate us. Let a judge decide that now.

But, as I dig deeper yes, this is happening more and more often, sadly.

It was my first pedigree purchase and it's my last. I sincerely thought I was with people Kennel Club approved and therefore I was not fueling puppy farming type of practices. I visited them twice before coming over to pick him up, they volunteered even before we asked that the vet was so happy with him and he was doing well. As legal advisor said, we couldn't have done much more to ascertain we were getting a healthy pup .

KC registration doesn't mean much at all, they let puppy farmers and all sorts register their dogs, they're too busy getting all worked up about non issues like dogs coming in colours they don't like and arguing against vets who want dogs to be bred for health not looks.

Rescue is the way to go next time you are in the market for a pet of any kind.

Good luck with the court action, and I hope the pup is on the road to recovery soon.