Zero hours contract

System

it does sound like a relaxed place but those environmemts tend to not last forever without some kind of pulling on the reigns so to speak.

although it may not be fair for them to treat you different to the students etc.. i dont think as 0 hours we have any security.

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The way it works with most zero hour jobs, especially hospitality and retail, if you decline a shift then don't expect many more.

Any Tory voting type person that thinks zero hour contracts work both ways are sadly mistaken.

clairec79

I've been offered shifts on the bank before (have a zero hour contract alongside my full time job) - I get offered a shift - I tell them either yes, no or I can't start till X/would have to finish at Y - which leaves them free to say yes, that'd be great (answer the majority of time) or say that won't work we'll ask someone else. I wouldn't say yes, then turn up an hour or so later than they'd requested

clairec79

So it may be that the students are doing this - clearing those hurs in advance, rather than in retrospect which seems to be what you are doing

steampowered

On a zero hours contract you are entitled to reject shifts. But if you accept shifts you should work them.

If you don't want the shift, tell the employer immediately so that they can get someone else. Don't wait until the same morning to cancel - that's toxic behaviour.

And turn up on time. That is just basic good manners. And essential for an employer trying to run a business. It is understandable if people are late occasionally, e.g. if their car breaks down, but it shouldn't happen on a regular basis.

No wonder the employer is getting grumpy! I'm surprised you still have a job to be honest.

Savvy_Sue

To be fair, my reading of it is that the work is occasional and is required to get a job done, NOT to keep something like a shop or office staffed at particular times.

Obviously if the employer now wants the OP in at 9 and for full days, then that's what the OP needs to do, and presumably the employer will pay for full days, even if the OP can get the job done in fewer hours - worth checking that, of course.

but if I wanted a job done on a particular day, and didn't expect it to take all day, I wouldn't mind if someone on zero hours wasn't there at 9 am - as long as they got the job done.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

You can do all this. They can't stop you.

What they can do is tell you not to turn up starting from tomorrow.

It's really that simple. If you !!!! them off they will offer you no hours at all. If you keep them happy, they will allow you whatever flexibility they are happy with.

You have all the rights and none of the power, because their right to tell you you to stop turning up at all trumps everything in your hand.

surfer9 wrote: »

yet I am now being told I have to come in at 9am and work a full day and do a set amount of days.......while these University dudes can work random days and hours around their courses..... so full flexibility for them......zero for me.

Again, up to them. They offer them that; they don't have to offer it to you. Fairness don't enter into it.

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ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

It's really that simple. If you !!!! them off they will offer you no hours at all. If you keep them happy, they will allow you whatever flexibility they are happy with.

You have all the rights and none of the power, because their right to tell you you to stop turning up at all trumps everything in your hand.

Again, up to them. They offer them that; they don't have to offer it to you. Fairness don't enter into it.

So you are in the 'fear' booting camp on this one... you are strange with your responses.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5763928
You are not the only one -re employable !

How far do you go to keep an employer happy ? when it's all give and no allowance. At best when your friendliest colleagues are served notice (again despite pretty much everyone in MSE land believing FTC or temporary really means permanent when there's good reason why there is no committment, especially in today's time) and you can apply for their job - goodness no thanks.

How many people will after events this week; see their job or employer in a whole new light?

Has Indeed stopped advertising new jobs? BOTH sides have choices.

I think everyone must have missed the bit where the OP says this 'arrangement' has gone on 4 years prior so they've hardly lost out.

steampowered

Deleted%20User wrote: »

How far do you go to keep an employer happy ?

I would suggest that turning up on time for your shifts is pretty basic. The employer is hardly asking for the world here.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Deleted%20User wrote: »

So you are in the 'fear' booting camp on this one... you are strange with your responses.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5763928
You are not the only one -re employable !

How far do you go to keep an employer happy ? when it's all give and no allowance. At best when your friendliest colleagues are served notice (again despite pretty much everyone in MSE land believing FTC or temporary really means permanent when there's good reason why there is no committment, especially in today's time) and you can apply for their job - goodness no thanks.

How many people will after events this week; see their job or employer in a whole new light?

Has Indeed stopped advertising new jobs? BOTH sides have choices.

I think everyone must have missed the bit where the OP says this 'arrangement' has gone on 4 years prior so they've hardly lost out.

It's hard, as usual, to make any sense of your post. However there's no fear" about it. They are not asking whether they should leave. They are asking whether they have any right to force the employer to let them do what they want. They don't. If the employer don't like anything about them or their behaviour they can simply stop offering work. Even if they don't like the colour of their hat; let alone if they insist on turning up late.

Whether they should leave - which they haven't asked - is of course down to whether they think they can get a better job elsewhere.