County court summons MIL collections

tommytee21

Hi all,

I have received a county court order instigated by our friends at MIL collections. I fully intend to defend the entire claim but would welcome any comments or guidance on the specifics of my case. The situation is as follows

I have a permit to park at work which is normally stuck to my windscreen. In January 2017 I had an accident which resulted in my windscreen being replaced. Following this, I forgot to replace the permit and received a ticket on my windscreen from the private parking management firm LCPM. On challenging it (and after much wailing and gnashing of teeth and some threatening language in their emails) LCPM eventually rescinded the invoice and I resolved to put the permit in my car from that point onwards which is what I did.

I then received another ticket for a ‘parking violation’ on 5th June 2017 which I was unaware of - they’d switched from windscreen tickets to sending information to my registered keepers address - having recently moved this was my old address so I never received the details so in December 2017 I received (in the same envelope) a letter from LCPM saying I hadn’t responded to their previous letters and they’d sold the debt, and a couple of letters from MIL who had purchased the debt and that they would be pursuing me.

Perhaps somewhat naively, I called MIL to confirm the details but gave no other details. I have also been in contact with LCPM to get the evidence photos and try to get the initial ticket overturned - MIL had said if I could prove LCPM had cancelled the ticket they’d drop everything.

Here’s where I think it gets interesting. I’m sure a permit has been in my car since the original ticket so I was interested in the evidence photos. On receiving them I find the time/date stamps highly suspicious. There are 3 photos exactly 1 minute apart - 12:21:58, 12:22:58, 12:23:58. Whilst I accept is not impossible, it seems more likely to me that someone has added this at a later date, lazily changing the minutes only. I requested the original photos with the EXIF information intact (the photos they sent had it all blanked out) but LCPM seem unwilling to supply them. Not sure if I can bring the legitimacy of the photos into question without anything to back it up but I just know something fishy is going on.

I’ve now received the county court claim from Northampton stating the claim is for ‘parking without a valid permit or authority’ and so I’m looking to get all my ducks in a row.

I appreciate I have made some mistakes throughout this whole thing but I’ll be defending it to the last and they’ll have to pry any money out of my cold, dead hands. Therefore I would very much appreciate some help from some experienced members in formulating a solid defence. From what I have read MIL have been getting their !!!!!! handed to them in court and I’d love to score another one against these scumbags.

I’ve done a bit of reading around MILs right to make this claim and material losses etc but I don’t know enough to get started. I’ve read the NEWBIES thread but I feel like the specifics of my case may need more insight.

I’m happy to provide more detail if that would help.

Many thanks in advance.

twhitehousescat

full name of parking Co please

tommytee21

Its Local Car Park Management (I think a trading name of OKS Empire ltd). To confirm they have sold on their debt to MIL collections.

twhitehousescat

oh dear that is not nice of them , however you contacted the company and handed your data over , without them getting it from the DVLA


search on here , pepipo and parking pranksters site , numerous cases , but many fail

most cases MIL are using CC to act as debt collectors

tommytee21

I did not give them any information. I gave them a reference number, they confirmed what it was relating to and that was it. Is this a problem?

twhitehousescat

did you give your full name and address to them , or did they get that info from DVLA

Umkomaas

If you didn't provide the PPC with your name and address when you made your appeal to your initial ticket, how did they gain access to the detail?

Write to the DVLA and ask which organisations have accessed your personal data between xx/xx/xx and yy/yy/yy. Provide enough leeway between the dates to cover any possible PCNs.

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.za/2015/06/dvla-reverse-position-on-charging-to.html

twhitehousescat

as per this case , and every other , MIL have not broke any DVLA rules , revenge is gained by attacking the parking Co http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=108819

tommytee21

Thanks both. Interestingly, I do not know where they got my details from full stop. My registered keepers address was my previous address (v5 was not updated following a house move) this is where all the initial threats were sent. The letters I received later - from lcpm stating they had sold the debt, and the letters from MIL arrived at my new address.

Umkomaas

Write to the DVLA as advised.

twhitehousescat

NO , write to the BPA including the letter where they say they have SOLD the debt , there agreement with the DVLA forbids this , get this company sanctioned/shut down !


the DVLA will do nothing ,


steve clark

Steve.C@britishparking.co.uk