international student, PCN at uni, appeal rejected

latteholic

Coupon-mad wrote: »

I would ignore them from now on. It's a contractual dispute, and THEY caused the delay.

It is illegal for them to affect your studies or withhold your degree or anything like that.

Thank you very much for your concerns. Can I really do ignore them? Won't I go to Jail? Why couldn't the university understand my circumstance? for profit??

Coupon-mad

But they caused you to be late by delaying the lecture. They can't profit from that.

Ignore them from now on, we hope you've read enough here to know that IAS is NOT worth trying.

Won't I go to Jail?

Hahaha, nononono! You can sleep soundly, you are safe.

This is not a criminal matter, does not go to that sort of court. This is a contract dispute and they caused you to be delayed. Even if you did lose if they try to sue you in the county court, guess what? All you do is then pay...that's all. In the end.

But most here win.

What you have described is a University delaying a lecture by admin error (double booking of a hall) and trying to then profit from the students who parked in good faith for that lecture.

That is NOT FAIR in law. Winnable if they try a small claim - a Judge would be mad to allow it.

No jail, LOL!

No fine. No huge costs. Relax!

latteholic

Coupon-mad wrote: »

But they caused you to be late by delaying the lecture. They can't profit from that.

Ignore them from now on, we hope you've read enough here to know that IAS is NOT worth trying.

What should I do if they send me another letter inviting me a court:eek: with the hugely increased amount including court fee etcs.?

Coupon-mad

But that doesn't happen.

If people lose, they just pay the 'charge' and about £50 court costs. No huge costs.

That's it! BUT MOST WIN.

You are imagining all sorts of things that DO NOT HAPPEN in this Country.

latteholic

Coupon-mad wrote: »

But they caused you to be late by delaying the lecture. They can't profit from that.

Ignore them from now on, we hope you've read enough here to know that IAS is NOT worth trying.




Hahaha, nononono! You can sleep soundly, you are safe.

This is not a criminal matter, does not go to that sort of court. This is a contract dispute and they caused you to be delayed. Even if you did lose if they try to sue you in the county court, guess what? All you do is then pay...that's all. In the end.

But most here win.

What you have described is a University delaying a lecture by admin error (double booking of a hall) and trying to then profit from the students who parked in good faith for that lecture.

That is NOT FAIR in law. Winnable if they try a small claim - a Judge would be mad to allow it.

No jail, LOL!

No fine. No huge costs. Relax!

Wow! What a super fast reply. My reply couldn't follow your speed.
Yes, I read that appeal to IAS is not worth to try unless it is very unusual circumstances.
In my country, only government can make a parking fine so I was very confused about this PCN and shocked about the amount. From your comments, I could understand this PCN is not based on the UK's law and I am not against the UK's law. So No Jail, No Fine, No Huge Cost.
PCN still attracts me with the discount option of £30 but I will try to ignore it with confidence. Thanks.

Redx

they will try to base it on uk law, uk CONTRACT law ( CIVIL LAW) as they will deem that you entered into a parking contract, which they are a party to and so as they caused the delay they are to blame as they broke their side of the contract and hopefully a judge would see that and dismiss the case (like you thought when you appealed it)

as this is civil law and not criminal law, no JAIL will be involved

we have several different types of "law" in this country, CRIMINAL, CIVIL , BYLAW and probably others too, each one is different and they are of different scales depending on the issues

at worst you would pay what the judge decrees in the ruling , which is typically £175 or less

we do not hang people for these "crimes" (they are not crimes , so no jail , no parole and no allowed out on license)

its a parking charge invoice, you did not cause loss of life, you did not rob somebody (or assault anybody) - different laws for different issues, so UK civil law is applied here, where common sense should prevail if it goes before a judge at your local county court

they have 6 years to try a court case in england

any court papers will either come from Northampton CCBC (probably this one), OR from Salford paper handling centre (near Manchester) - the latter is unlikely as its likely to be an MCOL from Northampton CCBC (a civil law office for the uk government)

latteholic

Redx wrote: »

they will try to base it on uk law, uk CONTRACT law ( CIVIL LAW) as they will deem that you entered into a parking contract, which they are a party to and so as they caused the delay they are to blame as they broke their side of the contract and hopefully a judge would see that and dismiss the case (like you thought when you appealed it)

as this is civil law and not criminal law, no JAIL will be involved

we have several different types of "law" in this country, CRIMINAL, CIVIL , BYLAW and probably others too, each one is different and they are of different scales depending on the issues

at worst you would pay what the judge decrees in the ruling , which is typically £175 or less

we do not hang people for these "crimes" (they are not crimes , so no jail , no parole and no allowed out on license)

its a parking charge invoice, you did not cause loss of life, you did not rob somebody , or assault anybody) - different laws for different issues, so UK civil law is applied here, where common sense should prevail if it goes before a judge at your local county court

they have 6 years to try a court case in england

any court papers will either come from Northampton CCBC (probably this one), OR from Salford paper handling centre (near Manchester) - the latter is unlikely as its likely to be an MCOL from Northampton CCBC (an office for the uk government)

Thank you very much for your kind and clear explanations. So in my case, I would be at local county court where common sense exists and in the worst situation, I would pay up to £175.
What does mean "they have 6 years to try a court case in England"?

If I am before a judge with PCN matter (lol) in the worst scenario, will this affect my student visa status or working visa as a postdoctoral fellow for 1-2 years after graduation?

Do you recommend to pay £30 (discount) for my mental health during my study as a timid person?
Or do I need to insist my right? _pale_

Coupon-mad

If I am before a judge with PCN matter (lol) in the worst scenario, will this affect my student visa status or working visa as a postdoctoral fellow for 1-2 years after graduation?

No.

Do you recommend to pay £30 (discount) for my mental health during my study as a timid person?

Good question - and my answer is, if it will worry you a lot - YES.

Ralph-y

only you can make up your mind ....

but you should know that you have been getting advice from one of the most knowledgeable people re parking on private land in the country !

if you had been a more forceful person I would have been so tempted to suggest that you approach the legal / law section for comments;)

good luck

Ralph:cool:

The_Deep

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences. One of the so-called independent adjudication bodies is in the pocket of the scammers. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Parking Eye, Smart and a smaller company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, who take hundreds of these cases to court, who have also been reported to the regulatory authority. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the HofC recently.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind most of these companies may well be put out of business by Christmas.[/FONT]