Training costs

jobbingmusician

Changing the subject somewhat.

If you have to pay for the training, you may as well do it. Separately from your negotiations with the employer there are possible options.

1. If you can't now do the training, is the whole amount payable? Can they transfer the training to another employee? (there may be some cost as presumably the company would have to pay again for the new person to do the first 6 months)

2. If they can't, is there any way you can do the training from home? After all, it's your training if you pay for it. It may stand you in good stead for an eventual return to work.

Ja7188

Putting aside the various "misunderstandings" in this thread, it now seems to be clear that "Betty" cannot return to work and it is liable for a £5000 charge - and I'm assuming that the sliding scale doesn't exist in this case.

The point has been made above that the company could perhaps transfer the training to someone else and if I were "Betty" I would be proactive in ensuring that they look into this. Assuming that "Betty" isn't the only person in the company with the same job, this could well be a possibility.

I would also suggest that "Betty" personally checks the college's policy on people dropping out and if they will offer a pro-rata refund, this should obviously be reflected in any charge made to her.

If the worst comes to the worst, "Betty" will probably have to pay the £5000 back and although the company looks to be under no obligation to accept this back in installments, they may agree to do so - the only way to find out is to ask!

charlie_2015

Thanks to Sangie and Nicechap for trying to help, your time will probably be better used posting in another thread.

To clear things up for the other helpful posters

The reason i signed the document in the first place was because I was somewhat cornered. I had already started the training but was employed for under two years, I either signed the document or faced the potential of being dismissed .

I cannot carry on the training as a requirement is to have X amount of hours in a workplace.

I dont think its possible to transfer the training but I could ask I guess.

Normally, if this is self funded you can get a learner loan from the government to fund it. Would it be possible for me to go down that route and pay this back in the same way as a student loan?

Thanks

charlie_2015

Additionally the document I signed says that I will be liable for the training costs if I am dismissed, terminate employment or fail the course. Also clauses are in there after the training is complete but that is irrelevant

nicechap

charlie_2015 wrote: »

Thanks to Sangie and Nicechap for trying to help, your time will probably be better used posting in another thread.

To clear things up for the other helpful posters

The reason i signed the document in the first place was because I was somewhat cornered. I had already started the training but was employed for under two years, I either signed the document or faced the potential of being dismissed .

I cannot carry on the training as a requirement is to have X amount of hours in a workplace.

I dont think its possible to transfer the training but I could ask I guess.

Normally, if this is self funded you can get a learner loan from the government to fund it. Would it be possible for me to go down that route and pay this back in the same way as a student loan?

Thanks

Its a big shame that Sangie is unable to reply further on this thread as she has previously been able to clarify when training costs are repayable and when not to other MSErs.

I note, that in your thread of last March you had not signed, but now it transpires you have. It doesn't sound like you were coerced, dismissing someone after they have declared they are pregnant is a brave action for an employer.

Good luck with explaining that you want a trainer/ student loan to pay off a debt to a previous employer.

charlie_2015

Please delete this thread mods. I've had enough now. Nicechap appears to have no restraint and is insistent on derailing my thread.

BorisThomson

charlie_2015 wrote: »

Additionally the document I signed says that I will be liable for the training costs if I am dismissed, terminate employment or fail the course. Also clauses are in there after the training is complete but that is irrelevant

You are terminating your employment.

You will not get a govt loan for a course you are not doing.

You have already caused a great deal of disruption to your employer by taking maternity and then deciding to resign (both of which you are lawfully entitled to do, but nonetheless incur expense and inconvenience to the business and your ex colleagues). You'll understand if your employer may be firm in enforcing the terms of your agreement.

gettingtheresometime

nicechap wrote: »

Its a big shame that Sangie is unable to reply further on this thread as she has previously been able to clarify when training costs are repayable and when not to other MSErs.

I note, that in your thread of last March you had not signed, but now it transpires you have. It doesn't sound like you were coerced, dismissing someone after they have declared they are pregnant is a brave action for an employer.

Good luck with explaining that you want a trainer/ student loan to pay off a debt to a previous employer.

I wasn’t sure what you meant by Sangie not being able to post, then I realised she’d been pprd (which I think is a great shame).

My take on the situation is that the OP started the course, became pregnant & then it dawned on the employer that the OP may not come back so quickly put something in place just in case & given the fact that the OP is considering/decided not to go back (for whatever reason) , it looks like the company thought correctly.

Personally I doubt very much that they’ll accept repayment in small instalments - even at £100 per month, that would be over a 4 year period - so I’m guessing the repayment will be immediate & in full.

Cheeky_Monkey

charlie_2015 wrote: »

Please delete this thread mods. I've had enough now. Nicechap appears to have no restraint and is insistent on derailing my thread.

Your thread won't be deleted. It will probably just be locked so that it can still be read by other people who may need the same/similar advice.

nicechap

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

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My take on the situation is that the OP started the course, became pregnant & then it dawned on the employer that the OP may not come back so quickly put something in place just in case & given the fact that the OP is considering/decided not to go back (for whatever reason) , it looks like the company thought correctly.

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In the opening post, they said Betty wanted to be a full time mum but then it transpired the OP asked the same question for themself a year ago.

A week ago, the OP said they'd been offered a new job and were fretting about flexible hours.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5788145

Maybe their new employer will give them a signing on bonus/ golden handcuffs as they are obviously a real catch.