No Windscreen PCN, NTK arrived late?

beeepaaah

Okay thanks CM. I'm just going to send the template as is I think. I had written a bit about ghost ticket and a bit about station manager but I'll take them out.

Looking at POPLA site (for potential future use), one of the options (in addition to "other") is "I was free to park in the location" or something. Assuming I get written confirmation of this from the station manager then I can add that as evidence in the upload with everything else? Although given that you have confirmed I need to use para 8 of schedule 4 rather than 9, and the NTK arrived within 56 days that I can't use "no keeper liability"?

I'm still looking at schedule 4 and although you mentioned they don't tend to get 8(2)f right - how "right" does it have to be. Can things be interpreted? Or, for example, if the NTK says "must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the 'date of this notice' above" and 8(2)f says "the day after that on which the notice to keeper is given", is that kind of thing enough to make it cack? And the old relevant land element...eg they state the station but byelaws etc?

Just trying to understand...

Thank you!

waamo

I have a sneaky feeling that as this was a train station that POPLA may not be available.

If not this is good news. We have not seen a railway ticket ever get taken to court. The hurdles in place seem to high.

Coupon-mad

one of the options (in addition to "other") is "I was free to park in the location" or something. Assuming I get written confirmation of this from the station manager then I can add that as evidence in the upload with everything else?

No, because that choice blows ALL your toes off as keeper! That's why we ONLY use 'OTHER'.

No-one writes 'I parked' or 'I was free to park'!! Guess who write those choices for POPLA? The BPA.

And POPLA will be available. And a keeper MUST win, as long as they don't imply who was driving.

It's only Indigo or CP Plus who get away without POPLA as they call theirs 'penalties'.

beeepaaah

Coupon-mad wrote: »

No, because that choice blows ALL your toes off as keeper! That's why we ONLY use 'OTHER'.
No-one writes 'I parked' or 'I was free to park'!! Guess who write those choices for POPLA? The BPA.

Ha - understood. Sneaky!
Was just wondering where (or even if I needed) to work it in.

Coupon-mad

By all means work it in as a POPLA point:

The vehicle was fully authorised to park there

But only if you can prove it with an email or note from the Station Master saying that cars CAN park there when the car park is full, without penalty.

Not 'I' was OK to park!

beeepaaah

Just got back from holiday today to find the refusal to drop the pcn, an invitation to pay half rate within 14 days, and a popla number...

Coupon-mad

Good, so now it's easy. Copy a 2017 similar POPLA appeal found by searching the forum.

beeepaaah

I!!!8217;m also at the station this week so will see about the manager also providing something, given the case is staff parking.
So with the appeal, the idea is to create a response that is uploaded to the popla site under !!!8220;other!!!8221; yep?

Coupon-mad

Yes. And the template appeal points are already written, in the NEWBIES thread post #3.