No Windscreen PCN, NTK arrived late?

Coupon-mad

Should have asked him to email that to you.

Be careful when adding things to the template, not to imply who was driving.

The template is used for a reason, and it sends a message to APCOA that you are on MSE.

beeepaaah

Thanks CM - wow up late! :-)

Understood re the template. My thoughts were to keep the template the same but to insert something after the second sentence to inform them to contact the station manager and obtain clarification of the local conditions under which they are operating, and to cancel the PCN. If however... and then carry on the template.

I want them to cancel this now rather than try and contest it and have to go to POPLA, and they can do this by speaking to the people they carry out their service for.

Sound okay?

I was also wanting to make reference to there being no PCN on the car and no other notice to driver. Should I not bother with that though?

The_Deep

See what MPs had to say in the HoC two days ago about these scammers and their low rent solicitors. Please complain to your MP citing Sir Greg's Bill.


http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

Guys_Dad

The station guy's comments are worth nothing unless you get them in writing or him in court, should it come to that.

If you do contact the PPC, make sure to make a big thing about ghost ticketing. I don't suppose there is any way to see which of the 2 photos was taken first, although it is almost certain the one with the ticke was 2nd.

If bylaws apply, POPLA won't touch it and it is unlikely the PPC will try court.

beeepaaah

Guys_Dad wrote: »

The station guy's comments are worth nothing unless you get them in writing or him in court, should it come to that.

He is happy to speak to them - but they need to contact him.

Guys_Dad wrote: »

If you do contact the PPC, make sure to make a big thing about ghost ticketing. I don't suppose there is any way to see which of the 2 photos was taken first, although it is almost certain the one with the ticke was 2nd.

yes, on *their* site which shows a photo with ticket, that one has an alleged time stamp 4 minutes later.

Guys_Dad wrote: »

If bylaws apply, POPLA won't touch it and it is unlikely the PPC will try court.

Do all railway carparks fall under bylaws? From what I have seen it is relied on a lot as not relevant land.

As far as my original post goes where I was expecting to use the fact that the NTK wasn't issued until well outside the 14 day deadline (where I was expecting to use paragraph 9 of schedule 4), Coupon Mad has set me straight that despite not seeing a PCN on the car (ghost ticket) they will take the approach that one has been issued so it's para 8 that applies, and the NTK was received on day 51 (so within the 28 days following the 28 days after alleged PCN issue)...so my expectation that it was late is no longer valid I believe. As such I am obviously reliant on the station guy along with any missing stuff from the NTK v Schedule 4 and bylaws.

Guys_Dad

beeepaaah wrote: »

He is happy to speak to them - but they need to contact him.

When you say "them", I assume you mean the PPC. Why on earth would they contact the station guy in order to get their income cancelled? And also would a station guy's instructions override the contract that the PPC had with the station itself?

Not wanting to get too technical, but aren't stations owned by Network Rail yet the staff employed by the relevant operator?

Certainly in court if a sworn statement from the guy or him in person was produced, it could be a winner but I can't see a phone call sorting it out.

beeepaaah

The more I go over all this stuff the more my head spins!

beeepaaah

Just looking on the Resolver website, which says it is in association with MSE. Worth using?
I also note that they have this
"If you just want to fight the ticket and not appeal
In this case, you should refuse to pay. Do not say that you are appealing, as this will legitimise the ticket. In addition, mark !!!8220;Without Prejudice!!!8221; on your letter !!!8211; this means that no information in the letter can be used against you."
Not that i am thinking of not appealing, but just whether the "without prejudice" bit was worth adding to the template?

Coupon-mad

They won't contact the station manager so I would simply use the template. APCOA will fold.

Resolver are absolutely SHOCKING with their awful advice about private parking charges. Dreadful. Even worse that they tell people to wrote 'without prejudice' on letters. Idiots.

whether the "without prejudice" bit was worth adding to the template?

Certainly not! It is TERRIBLE advice.

waamo

Resolver are absolutely useless with parking matters. One or two people have used them and come here to try and get the mess they made of it sorted out.