School uniform policy. is it going too far?

maman

Anoneemoose wrote: »

OP still hasn!!!8217;t answered the question (as far as I can see) about what the school have said about the fact the school are discriminating against his/her daughter.

Surely that!!!8217;s the route they need to be going with this?

I think OP has issues himself. I know many people use the boards as a place to let off steam. That's fine, but I think if he took the same approach at school it wouldn't be helpful.

Spendless wrote: »

The reason why uniform isn't a leveller? Adolescents/Teenagers seek to both rebel and conform and are at an age where they seek their 'own' identity.

They 'rebel' against the adults (parents/teachers) and 'conform' by all wanting to do the same thing as their mates.

I find if you look deeper they do want to conform but don't want to be dictated to. At our local 6th Form College the 'uniform' seems to be anything from Jack Wills or similar designer type store aimed at their age group. Converse are essential but coats aren't!:rotfl:

SuperHan

Ames wrote: »

They're not available in a size six, and Asda use vanity sizing so I doubt there's any hope they'll fit the OPs daughter.

I wouldn't write this off - I'm a size 6 in most shops, and can often wear George clothing (including trousers). I can't guarantee they'll fit without trying them on, but it's not unheard of.

Unlike Tu at Sainsbury's which is the most ridiculous vanity sizing I've ever seen!

liney

No trousers that have a zip pocket, no trouser to have a rear zip pocket, zip up to waist band accepted with clasp. No Jeggings, No leggings, No jeans.


So basically, tailored trousers. This is not an unusual, or obscure request. The school has listed all these 'No's' because of so many of the little darlings persuading their parents that, 'These are ok for school,' when actually they are fashion items.


Zip pockets tend to appear on those stretchy, jegging type trousers. ie, not smart, tailored trousers. Saying no to zips automatically removes these from the option box. Both Debenhams and New look sell suitable trousers in size 6.

Energize

Comms69 wrote: »

That's just nonsense. Each school sets it's own uniform policy, it has nothing to do with central govt.


If you don't like it, you can ofcourse homeschool your kids....

The government runs the education system though and has the power to put a stop to this sort of bs.

Suggesting that the op homeschools their kids after they have been forced to pay huge amounts of tax to fund the education system is not reasonable.

liney

I don't think it's BS to ask children to wear smart, tailored trousers though. That was uniform when I was at secondary school in the 90's too. It is the requirement in many, many jobs across the country.


Individual schools will have individual issues due to fashions in their local area. Some schools might have skirt length problems; others skin tight trouser debates. Their uniform policy probably address these 'misunderstandings' that parents seem to have.

AylesburyDuck

With the size issue, ie she's a size 6 and school goes down to size 8 so its massive.
Sorry i havnt read the entire thread but.....
If she will actually wear the proper uniform and it doesnt trigger her sensory issues can you maybe find a local seemstress/tailor/alteration service and have it altered to her size?
You have my total sympathys OP, being on the specrum myself and with a child also on the spectrum i know how challenging (and for that read, totally damn ignorant and intolerant) the education system can be.
Sign.

Spendless

liney wrote: »

Zip pockets tend to appear on those stretchy, jegging type trousers. ie, not smart, tailored trousers. Saying no to zips automatically removes these from the option box. Both Debenhams and New look sell suitable trousers in size 6.

Zips also appear on trousers that the supermarkets/shops call 'school uniform range'

First google I found

https://www.tesco.com/direct/ff-school-girls-zip-pocket-slim-leg-trousers/220-6108.prd

I've been in this position with DD (who doesn't have the sensory and medical issues of the OP's daughter), so many restrictions on what you couldn't wear (think there was 10+ restrictions), you couldn't find a pair that complied. I did point this out to school when they did their uniform survey and published it in their feedback results, so other parents said the same thing - it's not just me and the OP that have come across this issue.

liney

And those trousers are described as 'stretch' so are not under the smart tailored banner. I have no idea why stores market then as uniform when schools generally don't allow stretchy materials. Perhaps it's the stories who need to review not the schools.

Energize

liney wrote: »

I don't think it's BS to ask children to wear smart, tailored trousers though. That was uniform when I was at secondary school in the 90's too. It is the requirement in many, many jobs across the country.


Individual schools will have individual issues due to fashions in their local area. Some schools might have skirt length problems; others skin tight trouser debates. Their uniform policy probably address these 'misunderstandings' that parents seem to have.

I don't think it's unreasonable to have pupils dress smart but things like no zips are ridiculous, there is no rationale and absolutely no professional jobs have such a dress code. When people are forced to pay huge sums in tax to fund the education system under the threat of prison, I think that expecting parents to be buying £100 school uniforms to meet an absurd dress code is beyond the pale.

Savvy_Sue

It's a while ago, but I know the school the boys went to said that the uniform supplier WOULD supply in sizes outside the range for which prices were quoted, and would make to order if necessary. I think this was at the same price as regular sizes.

I just wonder if the OP has checked with the supplier direct, rather than just with the school? I don't know how it used to work because we only needed 'standard' sizes but I think we had the supplier's details on the order form in case of any difficulty.