Advice on PIP

Mick442504

Hi all

I currently claim PIP Enhanced, and the award is until 2020 with the reassessment forms due to be sent in mid 2019, however i am looking for some advice, for a while now, not a long time though, i have noticed a improvement in one aspect of the sections i was awarded points on my PIP claim (dressing) - Should i contact the DWP in the near future if this improvement is permanent or should i wait until i get my re assessment forms mid next year and tell them then? I was given points on many different things but as i say there seems to be a improvement in one aspect of my difficulties.

Also, does anyone know that if i was to ring the DWP and tell them this, would my pip payments continue until they reach there new decision on how many points i would have?

Any advice is welcome, thanks, josh

poppy12345

Mick442504 wrote: »

Hi all

I currently claim PIP Enhanced, and the award is until 2020 with the reassessment forms due to be sent in mid 2019, however i am looking for some advice, for a while now, not a long time though, i have noticed a improvement in one aspect of the sections i was awarded points on my PIP claim (dressing) - Should i contact the DWP in the near future if this improvement is permanent or should i wait until i get my re assessment forms mid next year and tell them then? I was given points on many different things but as i say there seems to be a improvement in one aspect of my difficulties.

Also, does anyone know that if i was to ring the DWP and tell them this, would my pip payments continue until they reach there new decision on how many points i would have?

Any advice is welcome, thanks, josh

As your condition has improved then you do need to tell them this. Reporting these types of changes your payments could stop until a decision is made. You will be sent more forms to fill in and another assessment will most likely be needed.

Hoogle

I commend you OP I am a negative guy but I do not believe in withholding anything from people that pay you money that is relevant to your claim. I have also found that if your forthcoming with them then they are more likely to help you out, may even just put a comment on your file rather than go through a whole re assessment hassle. However if you get enhanced daily living which I am assuming so and you only have 12 points (so only just got the enhanced payment) then they may send you for an assessment but could be 8+ weeks.

And if you end up in a different award scale which will bring financial strain to you, then I have heard of them doing a gradual reduction over a period of time to get you slowly down to the rate you should be on.

poppy12345

Hoogle wrote: »

I commend you OP I am a negative guy but I do not believe in withholding anything from people that pay you money that is relevant to your claim. I have also found that if your forthcoming with them then they are more likely to help you out, may even just put a comment on your file rather than go through a whole re assessment hassle. However if you get enhanced daily living which I am assuming so and you only have 12 points (so only just got the enhanced payment) then they may send you for an assessment but could be 8+ weeks.

And if you end up in a different award scale which will bring financial strain to you, then I have heard of them doing a gradual reduction over a period of time to get you slowly down to the rate you should be on.

I'm sorry but your advice is very often bad and here we go again. In the UK that's not how it works. If the OP does end up with a lower award then payments are reduced when a decision is made, if not before in this case.

I've heard of a few people reporting changes when their health has got better and their money has stopped while waiting a re-assessment.

Alice_Holt

Hoogle wrote: »

And if you end up in a different award scale which will bring financial strain to you, then I have heard of them doing a gradual reduction over a period of time to get you slowly down to the rate you should be on.

NO absolutely not. The reduction is immediate.

This is completely wrong.

Unfortunately this poster makes a habit of posting inaccurate and misleading information.

poppy12345

Yes indeed, that's actually the worst advice i've ever seen anyone give. Hoogle clearly lives in some kind of dream land.....

Hoogle

Wow some people are so rude here I have heard and saying they definitely will are completely different things. I know I can come across as being rude sometimes but I made an effort to try and be as nice as possible and yet your still jumping on my back. I volunteer gardening for an elder gentleman and he is the one who had said it happened to him. Like I said big difference between heard and fact. Your just mad at me because I stated high chance of pip being rejected in 1st stage application in a past post so anything under 50% chance of being awarded is a higher chance of rejection statistically even if you look at the 2017 figures here I will make it simple from you from the DWP report.

"Award rates (normal rules, excluding withdrawn claims) for new claims are 45% and 73% for DLA reassessment claims. This covers awards made between April 2013 and October 2017."

and that 45% is overall after appeal and tribunal stages without stating specific details the report is published now for all to see THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE OF NEW PIP APPLICANTS BEING DENIED ON APPLICATION. or I will simplify it for you there is a higher chance of being denied than being awarded in total. Of course some people are different and a lot of factors depend on person to person.

I guess it is true what they say about people that sit behind their keyboards I feel sorry for you I really do your so bitter.

poppy12345

Hoogle wrote: »

Wow some people are so rude here I have heard and saying they definitely will are completely different things. I know I can come across as being rude sometimes but I made an effort to try and be as nice as possible and yet your still jumping on my back. I volunteer gardening for an elder gentleman and he is the one who had said it happened to him. Like I said big difference between heard and fact. Your just mad at me because I stated high chance of pip being rejected in 1st stage application in a past post so anything under 50% chance of being awarded is a higher chance of rejection statistically even if you look at the 2017 figures here I will make it simple from you from the DWP report.

"Award rates (normal rules, excluding withdrawn claims) for new claims are 45% and 73% for DLA reassessment claims. This covers awards made between April 2013 and October 2017."

and that 45% is overall after appeal and tribunal stages without stating specific details the report is published now for all to see THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE OF NEW PIP APPLICANTS BEING DENIED ON APPLICATION. or I will simplify it for you there is a higher chance of being denied than being awarded in total. Of course some people are different and a lot of factors depend on person to person.

I guess it is true what they say about people that sit behind their keyboards I feel sorry for you I really do your so bitter.

What are you talking about?? In your post #3 you clearly said that you heard that if you end up in a different award scale which will bring financial strain to you, then I have heard of them doing a gradual reduction over a period of time to get you slowly down to the rate you should be on. Why have you now posted statistics?

Oh and you don't sit behind your keyboard? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:At least what others post is actually the truth and not something we usually dream about.

Hoogle

When does saying I have heard mean the dwp spoke to me directly and put in writing this is a fact??
I have heard God is real
I have heard Elvis is alive
does it make it fact of course it doesn't we both know it is not a proven fact but both of those statements have people believing in them. If your going to post being rude to me then I have to justify why your being rude to me all the time. I said something once so now I have a reputation for posting wrong information when I still disagree that your original problem with me is not wrong. but then i guess everything you say is guaranteed factual isn't it.

t4tremendous

Mick442504 wrote: »

Hi all

I currently claim PIP Enhanced, and the award is until 2020 with the reassessment forms due to be sent in mid 2019, however i am looking for some advice, for a while now, not a long time though, i have noticed a improvement in one aspect of the sections i was awarded points on my PIP claim (dressing) - Should i contact the DWP in the near future if this improvement is permanent or should i wait until i get my re assessment forms mid next year and tell them then? I was given points on many different things but as i say there seems to be a improvement in one aspect of my difficulties.

Also, does anyone know that if i was to ring the DWP and tell them this, would my pip payments continue until they reach there new decision on how many points i would have?

Any advice is welcome, thanks, josh

hi

i'm trying to start my own pip/dla scoring system thread about activities i can and can't do but cannot see a "new thread" button so i cant start a new thread, or reply to messages without quoting someone which is frustrating, hopefully one of the admin team will sort it, i have tried to make them aware

anyway in the meantime i was reading your post which had some relevance to what i was going to post, so thought i'd give you my advice

as is being discussed i don't know the technicalities of what would happen exactly, if you'd have to have another assessment etc, but i think morally i admire you for thinking about telling them

i'd say that if you're having a new assessment next year, its just a component of your problem, and you're not even sure if it's permanent yet then i'd consider those factors and probably leave it until you have to see them next, i know my own problems how they are constantly changing and at times have even thought things have changed for good only to find out they haven't, i think from what you've described i'm not sure how big an impact it would have on your claim and i imagine they would maybe be happy that you didnt contact them until you was absolutely sure it was permanently improved and that it would as well have an impact on the money you get

if by the time you see them for your assessment it has indeed improved to the point whereby it is no longer a problem then by all means tell them, let them know it has been gradual and that you wanted to be entirely sure which i imagine they'll appreciate and understand

Ames

I don't think that waiting until your next assessment is wise, since it's over a year away. If the improvement means you qualify for less points and is likely to be permanent then I think you should tell them sooner rather than later. Perhaps speak to your doctors first to make sure that it is a permanent improvement.

Please don't listen to Hoogle. There is no mechanism to gradually reduce payments.