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Bristow and Sutor have clamped my car

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  • Oldwood
    Oldwood Posts: 85 Forumite
    Sorry for the edit, the forum only has the same access to legal personnel that everyone else has. This is a plain indication of how you seek to deceive people.

    They cannot refer cases any more than a normal member of the public can.

    It has access to counsel that specialise in legislation governing bailiffs. A referral can be made at no cost.
  • simon_the_poet
    simon_the_poet Posts: 186 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    edited 2 February 2018 at 6:48PM
    Oldwood wrote: »
    It has access to counsel that specialise in legislation governing bailiffs. A referral can be made at no cost.

    You say at no cost, but the debtor has to Pay £35 for the telephone conversation which tells them how to go about it.


    Everyone has "access to counsel," or it can be obtained free of charge at any CAB

    From your website

    "Cutting off a bailiffs wheel clamp
    All property receives a degree of protection by law, so cutting off a bailiff wheel clamp could give rise to a possible criminal damage charge. The question is whether the owner of the vehicle had a lawful excuse. He will have to show that he acted in the belief that property was in immediate need of protection, and that his actions were reasonable having regard to all the circumstances.
    The reason prosecutions for cutting off wheel clamps nearly always fail is the because defence proves bailiff was not acting lawfully. The owner of the vehicle can also sue for trespass to goods."

    A clamp must be removed by the person of legal authority which placed it there, or otherwise with their permission, there are no exceptions

    This section talks about bolt cutters.

    If you use bolt cutters then:

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    Templates were £15 each including the ones for the withdrawal of an implied rights of access.
  • Oldwood
    Oldwood Posts: 85 Forumite
    No - referral can be made without any consultation.

    That passage does not tell anyone to illegally remove a clamp. It explains when it is legal - this has been tested several times in court.

    It's not my website.

    How much does Bailiff Advice Online charge to complete one OOT form?
  • Herbie21
    Herbie21 Posts: 562 Forumite
    Oldwood wrote: »
    It has access to counsel that specialise in legislation governing bailiffs. A referral can be made at no cost.

    I appreciate that you are attempting to sell the services of the Bailiff Help Forum where you have been a frequent contributor since 2012.

    At the very least, you need to make the public aware that the website owner is a Will Writer who attempts to mislead the pubic into believing that he is a lawyer.

    His fees are astronomical. The following is a copy of the website owners post dated 13th January 2016 where he outlines his fees:

    Its £35 for a consultation, £100 to draft the paperwork including court statements. £500 payable to the solicitor for court representation (Small claims track is assumed).

    You might be able to do it all (except the £35 initial consultation) under the no-win no fee scheme, but this is really for high value claims but it has been done in the small track.

    I would have to examine your case in detail, assess the potential value of the claim, propose it to a solicitor, who then signs it off for the scheme. I then pay a premium (well, DWB pays it) to the insurer who guarantees your legal fees if you lose your claim.

    You need watertight evidence to support your claim to be accepted. If your claim is under £10,000 then its zero risk because the other parties will have to pay their own solicitors fees.

    I am happy to put a bailiff on the stand and crack his nuts in front of the judge.
  • Herbie21
    Herbie21 Posts: 562 Forumite
    Following the above post being made, a colleague associated with the owner of the Bailiff Help Forum, chose to alert the public to the danger facing debtors who sought the services of the website owner. The following is a copy of that warning:
    It is true that I am more cautious than Jason. I would never advise anyone to do something that I would not do myself.

    Jason on the other hand urges legal action at every given opportunity-

    He makes a few quid, his clients usually end up paying an additional few grand in costs orders

    I hate to say this, but I think that Jason is away with the fairies. I listened to a phone consultation he had with someone last year-Someone in excactly the same position as you. Jason told her to film the bailiff and if he didn't show her the warrant, Jason would have him arrested for fraud. If the police didn't arrest him, Jason was then going to have them arrested on a S26. Finally, Jason was then going to have the whole of the Marstons executive staff arrested for a S993. Guess how many people ended up being arrested?

    I tell you one other thing-Jason would never put himself in your position-He's not that confident of his methods. God knows, I've asked him enough times to try it himself before using other people. You have no case. You will end up paying bailiff fees and more on top-Far more than the bailiff fees you currently owe.

    I did once pay Jason £99 to draft me a letter before action/complaint. What I received back was a poorly constructed and poorly spelt draft that was littered with inaccurate and irrelevant interpretations from the book "Law of Seizure of Goods" by John Kruse. Many of these inaccurate interpretations are still on Jasons website today.

    I was able to spot that futility/financial suicide of proceeding with Jasons draft. I know of several others who were not so lucky and all ended up several thousand pounds worse off.
  • Oldwood
    Oldwood Posts: 85 Forumite
    Herbie21 wrote: »
    I appreciate that you are attempting to sell the services of the Bailiff Help Forum where you have been a frequent contributor since 2012.

    At the very least, you need to make the public aware that the website owner is a Will Writer who attempts to mislead the pubic into believing that he is a lawyer.

    His fees are astronomical. The following is a copy of the website owners post dated 13th January 2016 where he outlines his fees:

    For clarity, I'm not trying to sell anything. If anything I try to steer those seeking advice away from paying for a consultation as it never sits easy with me to charge a someone in debt money they can't afford.

    You need to understand what the word 'lawyer' means - what do you assume it means?

    How much do you charge to complete one OOT form?
  • Herbie21
    Herbie21 Posts: 562 Forumite
    edited 2 February 2018 at 9:40PM
    For clarity, the individual who posted the 'warning message' for the public worked as a Paralegal at the firm of Solicitors that the website owner passes legal cases to. He is no longer working at that firm.

    A short while ago that person posted a 2nd 'warning' message on the Bailiff Help Forum where he advised the debtor as follows:
    "The very last thing that you want to do is to go down Jason's Detailed Assessment route. Jason is very good at promising debtors the earth when it comes to costs being awarded by a judge.

    To date, his clients are MANY THOUSANDS OF POUNDS out of pocket thanks to his advice.

    The only person in pocket is Jason himself who never loses. Funnily enough, its never Jason's fault-its always the debtors fault or the judges.

    I strongly recommend that you IGNORE Jason"

    *removed by Forum team*

    PS: In answer to your question regarding Out of Time witness statements, the fee charged is clearly outlined on my website and is £45.
  • Oldwood
    Oldwood Posts: 85 Forumite
    edited 2 February 2018 at 9:41PM
    Herbie21 wrote: »
    *removed by Forum Team*

    PS: In answer to your question regarding Out of Time witness statements, the fee charged is clearly outlined on my website and is £45.

    I can't see the usernames Happy Contrails or JasonDWB anywhere on the site.

    Thank you for clarifying your fee for an OOT. I also believe that you charge £25 each time to the same client if they need to appeal further PCNs. So if a client wants to challenge 4 PCNs, the charge would be £120.

    This is of course a sevice that is offered for free on the Bailiff Help Forum.

    Can you clarify, did a recent OOT you completed give the reason for the appeal that the client had 'been very busy'?
  • Oldwood wrote: »
    For clarity, I'm not trying to sell anything. If anything I try to steer those seeking advice away from paying for a consultation as it never sits easy with me to charge a someone in debt money they can't afford.

    You need to understand what the word 'lawyer' means - what do you assume it means?

    How much do you charge to complete one OOT form?

    You need to understand that the word lawyer, which has no legal meaning on this side of the pond also does not depict any level of expertise or training.
    Something that sadly your forum does not make clear to its visitors.

    You are seeking to confuse the issue, there is a world of difference between helping someone to fill in a form and offering to commencing procedures in court.

    You are also being hugely disingenuous about your involvement in that forum, as you are one of only three active advisors and have been there for at least four years to my knowledge.
  • Oldwood
    Oldwood Posts: 85 Forumite
    You need to understand that the word lawyer, which has no legal meaning on this side of the pond also does not depict any level of expertise or training.

    Despite your error in saying the word Lawyer doesn't mean any level of expertise (it means non-qualified knowledge in an area of law), then complaining about someone using the label is misplaced.
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