On the housing ladder and i cant be more depressed

westernpromise

While an obvious troll, and much less skilful than the kind of thing I post, I do wonder if the snowflake can't-be-ar53d-to-do-anything-for-myself mentality it purports to reflect is in fact real.

While they bellyache endlessly about how awful renting is, the typical envious rentie has never actually experienced ownership and has little inkling of what it entails. If something needs fixing it's either fixed for the rentie at someone else's expense and trouble, or if it's not, the rentie just moves out. The idea of facing a £4,000 bill out of the blue for a new boiler, or £30,000 because all your windows are rotting, is completely alien.

As such, and given how keen on online moaning the snowflake / millennial generations are, I strongly suspect that any change in affordability or whatever would in many cases make little difference to whether they own or not. Buying is hassle, owning is hassle, and if they ever did manage it, then I suspect the whining would change from "Why are houses so expensive? Waaaaah," to "Why can't I afford this house I've bought? Waaaaah."

Some people just aren't cut out to own, and my sense is that this is true of the snowflakes in spades. Giving them what they think they want isn't going to make them happy because when they get it, they will just want something else. It's all about their convenience; they pay £3 for a coffee because they can't be bothered to make one, they listen to ghastly tinny MP3 on Bluetooth in the toilet because decent audio reproduction takes effort and planning, and they will make lousy homeowners because phoning the managing agent is easier than organising a repair. It costs them money to be renties but that's just a pleasant further thing to whinge about.

Given that the state is determined neither to provide rented social housing, nor to tolerate landlords who do so, and given that quite a few tenants (see Crashy) are equally determined to rent forever because buying is so scary, it's hard to see how this ends well for anyone.

ukcarper

ilovehouses wrote: »

If beautiful places could be rented for half the price of a mortgage nobody would ever buy.

If he had a 90% mortgage at 4% he would be paying £1,300 a month half that is £650 which would get you a bottom of market 1 bed flat. This is why I doubt his post is genuine.

Arklight

Meanwhile over on the forum hpc.co.uk...

triathlon

westernpromise wrote: »

While an obvious troll, and much less skilful than the kind of thing I post, I do wonder if the snowflake can't-be-ar53d-to-do-anything-for-myself mentality it purports to reflect is in fact real.

While they bellyache endlessly about how awful renting is, the typical envious rentie has never actually experienced ownership and has little inkling of what it entails. If something needs fixing it's either fixed for the rentie at someone else's expense and trouble, or if it's not, the rentie just moves out. The idea of facing a £4,000 bill out of the blue for a new boiler, or £30,000 because all your windows are rotting, is completely alien.

As such, and given how keen on online moaning the snowflake / millennial generations are, I strongly suspect that any change in affordability or whatever would in many cases make little difference to whether they own or not. Buying is hassle, owning is hassle, and if they ever did manage it, then I suspect the whining would change from "Why are houses so expensive? Waaaaah," to "Why can't I afford this house I've bought? Waaaaah."

Some people just aren't cut out to own, and my sense is that this is true of the snowflakes in spades. Giving them what they think they want isn't going to make them happy because when they get it, they will just want something else. It's all about their convenience; they pay £3 for a coffee because they can't be bothered to make one, they listen to ghastly tinny MP3 on Bluetooth in the toilet because decent audio reproduction takes effort and planning, and they will make lousy homeowners because phoning the managing agent is easier than organising a repair. It costs them money to be renties but that's just a pleasant further thing to whinge about.

Given that the state is determined neither to provide rented social housing, nor to tolerate landlords who do so, and given that quite a few tenants (see Crashy) are equally determined to rent forever because buying is so scary, it's hard to see how this ends well for anyone.

I know what game he is playing along with his band of mostly single brothers, saying that, one of the worst is actually a female who is beyond help, even scary with her 5000 homeowning hating word essays.

For their own good I just wish someone would get the vast majority of them to understand that rental is their life and probably will be to the end, knowing their place in the food chain would bring so much harmony to so many of them.

I would say that the vest majority of them are low paid underachievers who have been brainwashed into believing that there will soon be some major event that makes the property market crash and where we lose our homes and they just waltz in, 15 plus years they have followed this mantra.

I grant you, in 2008 I thought we might have a bit of a back step, maybe a fall of 10% over 2 years, but nothing that would have finished me off or anyone I know. In 2018 the UK is moving ahead again and on the verge of getting stronger as the world economy is, something that I and most British loving person would welcome. But not HPC, they want anarchy and some even pray for armageddon to get what they want or as you put it, what they think they want, because none of them has the bottle to take on a house.

triathlon

Arklight wrote: »

Meanwhile over on the forum hpc.co.uk...

Read their site and the small handful of posts that now remain, none of them deep down believes anything is going to happen now. I would say a good 90% plus of them have abandoned HPC or more than likely were banned when they questioned their main leaders. It's like a scary cult or religion where you are sentenced to exile for challenging their beliefs.

Crashy_Time

westernpromise wrote: »

While an obvious troll, and much less skilful than the kind of thing I post, I do wonder if the snowflake can't-be-ar53d-to-do-anything-for-myself mentality it purports to reflect is in fact real.

While they bellyache endlessly about how awful renting is, the typical envious rentie has never actually experienced ownership and has little inkling of what it entails. If something needs fixing it's either fixed for the rentie at someone else's expense and trouble, or if it's not, the rentie just moves out. The idea of facing a £4,000 bill out of the blue for a new boiler, or £30,000 because all your windows are rotting, is completely alien.

As such, and given how keen on online moaning the snowflake / millennial generations are, I strongly suspect that any change in affordability or whatever would in many cases make little difference to whether they own or not. Buying is hassle, owning is hassle, and if they ever did manage it, then I suspect the whining would change from "Why are houses so expensive? Waaaaah," to "Why can't I afford this house I've bought? Waaaaah."

Some people just aren't cut out to own, and my sense is that this is true of the snowflakes in spades. Giving them what they think they want isn't going to make them happy because when they get it, they will just want something else. It's all about their convenience; they pay £3 for a coffee because they can't be bothered to make one, they listen to ghastly tinny MP3 on Bluetooth in the toilet because decent audio reproduction takes effort and planning, and they will make lousy homeowners because phoning the managing agent is easier than organising a repair. It costs them money to be renties but that's just a pleasant further thing to whinge about.

Given that the state is determined neither to provide rented social housing, nor to tolerate landlords who do so, and given that quite a few tenants (see Crashy) are equally determined to rent forever because buying is so scary, it's hard to see how this ends well for anyone.

Your post count reads the same for the last few years...is it broken? :rotfl: It would be really disturbing I think to see how many posts you have actually made since 1996 Must be in the hundreds of thousands by now?

bobbymotors

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Your post count reads the same for the last few years...is it broken? :rotfl: It would be really disturbing I think to see how many posts you have actually made since 1996 Must be in the hundreds of thousands by now?

And yet not as many as you Crashy....

Look at ANY 10 year period of recent history, and house prices rise...EVERY TIME.

Thing is, we are an island, they can't make any more ground, too many people want to live here.

It's an endless upward spiral which will continue unless we have

1. A nuclear war
2. Errr...that's about it actually.

But do please encourage as many HPC er's as you can to carry on renting, as it will mean I can have more holidays, a better car, private healthcare if necessary, etc. at your expense and STILL own the houses.

Halcyon days for me. For you? Maybe not. But as long as you're happy renting, I'm happy you're happy.

triathlon

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Your post count reads the same for the last few years...is it broken? :rotfl: It would be really disturbing I think to see how many posts you have actually made since 1996 Must be in the hundreds of thousands by now?

Oh Crashy bless you, you are so sweet, but you are going to be in bedsit hell for life

Crashy_Time

bobbymotors wrote: »

And yet not as many as you Crashy....

Look at ANY 10 year period of recent history, and house prices rise...EVERY TIME.

Thing is, we are an island, they can't make any more ground, too many people want to live here.

It's an endless upward spiral which will continue unless we have

1. A nuclear war
2. Errr...that's about it actually.

But do please encourage as many HPC er's as you can to carry on renting, as it will mean I can have more holidays, a better car, private healthcare if necessary, etc. at your expense and STILL own the houses.

Halcyon days for me. For you? Maybe not. But as long as you're happy renting, I'm happy you're happy.

Do you know how much of the ground is actually built on? You do sound angry, I`ll take that as a good sign

Crashy_Time

triathlon wrote: »

Oh Crashy bless you, you are so sweet, but you are going to be in bedsit hell for life

Did you heart skip a beat, someone actually responding to one of your posts........:rotfl: