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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    My neighbour had one installed and swears by it.

    Apparantly he's found that when he has lights and appliances switched on, he uses more electricity, and when he turns them off, the smart meter tells him he's reduced his consumption.

    It's saving him a fortune now he knows!
  • footyguy
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    G_M wrote: »
    My neighbour had one installed and swears by it.

    Apparantly he's found that when he has lights and appliances switched on, he uses more electricity, and when he turns them off, the smart meter tells him he's reduced his consumption.

    It's saving him a fortune now he knows!

    You may jest, but at least one company, We are 2 Save Energy Limited, has made a very successfull business producing & selling their Owl monitor long before the roll-out of smart meters.

    These monitors are essentially the same as an IHD provided with smart meters ... but unlike smart meters do not do all the other things a smart meter can do.

    The current Minister for the Department for Business, Energy, and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) - Claire Perry - recently said she has previously invested in one of these Owl monitors.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    footyguy wrote: »
    You may jest, but at least one company, We are 2 Save Energy Limited, has made a very successfull business producing & selling their Owl monitor long before the roll-out of smart meters.

    These monitors are essentially the same as an IHD provided with smart meters ... but unlike smart meters do not do all the other things a smart meter can do.

    The current Minister for the Department for Business, Energy, and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) - Claire Perry - recently said she has previously invested in one of these Owl monitors.
    Well spotted. Indeed it was a jest, though with a serious point.

    The point of your own post, however, eludes me.

    It cannot be to advertise or publicise your product, as that would clearly contravene forum rules.

    And it cannot be to inform us that some smart meters do more than my (jestful) post suggested, since you yourself say: "do not do all the other things a smart meter can do."

    And it does nothing to suggest that the point I was making was erroneous.

    What's left? errrr..... could it actually have been the first option above after all :eek:
  • zeupater
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    edited 21 January 2018 at 11:59PM
    footyguy wrote: »
    You may jest, but at least one company, We are 2 Save Energy Limited, has made a very successfull business producing & selling their Owl monitor long before the roll-out of smart meters.

    These monitors are essentially the same as an IHD provided with smart meters ... but unlike smart meters do not do all the other things a smart meter can do.

    The current Minister for the Department for Business, Energy, and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) - Claire Perry - recently said she has previously invested in one of these Owl monitors.
    Hi

    We've had an owl monitor for years & it's sitting at the side of the TV ... we're currently running everything in the house (including ~900W.t of heating) by consuming ~280W .. another display is telling me that our PV isn't generating at the moment (well it is dark!), therefore the whole 280W is being imported ... we've had this setup for years, it works & it effectively tells us everything we need to know to manage energy efficiency in the home, so the main advantage of a smart-meter is negated ...

    Estimated bill ? ... well, we don't get them - we provide readings on-line, so that's the next advantage on the list also crossed off ...

    Now then, that really only leaves the time of use (/HHB) carrot/stick to consider, however, when the cost of domestic storage becomes attractive (no where near yet!) we'll store our own generation for later use, as will many other properties over the coming decades ... that's about it, the entire argument for smart-meters addressed & rebuffed in a few lines!

    The entire project has been overtaken by events which have taken place whilst the project has been evolving at close to a snail's pace ... between the announcement of smart-metering and today, remote monitoring, microgeneration (& other decentralised generation) technologies, the acceptance of on-line account management & (soon!) the ability to store substantial amounts of energy in the domestic environment have all evolved much faster ....

    The £12-£15 billion cost of this project would be better diverted to something to support the decentralised future of energy provision as opposed to maintaining the pretence that everything will continue along the lines of last century's centralised generation&distribution model ...

    HTH
    Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
    B)
  • Vegastare
    Vegastare Posts: 1,018 Forumite
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    Umm some of the first smart meters have out smarted themselves, they will need to be replaced as will not conform with the new up to date smart meters..

    Unless you are tied into a tarif which insist on a smart meter being installed you can always so no thanks.
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