Smart Meter - change supplier

grade15

Hi All, I have been lazy and not thoroughly searched.
Does anyone know which top 6 energy giant supplies smart meters which you can change suppliers afterwards?

footyguy

grade15 wrote: »

Hi All, I have been lazy and not thoroughly searched.
Does anyone know which top 6 energy giant supplies smart meters which you can change suppliers afterwards?

All the big 6 energy suppliers are currently supplying smart meters.

Having a smart meter does not prevent you switching supplier.

Now this actually answers the questions you posed, but I suspect not the questions you intended to pose, but I also suspect you know the answers anyway, and even if not, you admit you have "been lazy and not thoroughly searched", so go ahead

Good luck!

grade15

ops my wrong wording. which of the big 6 energy supplier which supply smart meters would continue to work (the smart meter) if I was to switch suppliers after it has been installed?.

System

grade15 wrote: »

ops my wrong wording. which of the big 6 energy supplier which supply smart meters would continue to work (the smart meter) if I was to switch suppliers after it has been installed?.

Within the next three years, all smart meters will be installed or modified to work with a central data/communications hub. First generation meters that cannot be updated will be deemed stranded assets and replaced. If you are looking for a definitive list of smart meter compatibility between individual suppliers, then you will be lucky to find one.

jackandcoke

So what are you worried about if you switch? No automatic readings? energy monitory not working?

House_Martin

Landis and Gyr Libra 310/310p is a very common install for SMETS1 smart gas meters.
According to the Landis and Gyr website a simple module exchange would be needed rather than a complete meter exchange to upgrade to SMETS2 compliant Libra G370 Zigbee smart gas meters
metershttps://www.landisgyr.eu/product/g370-zigbee-smart-ultrasonic-gas-meter/

EachPenny

You say:-

House_Martin wrote: »

According to the Landis and Gyr website a simple module exchange would be needed rather than a complete meter exchange to upgrade to SMETS2 compliant Libra G370 Zigbee smart gas meters

...but that doesn't mean it is going to happen. The OP is trying to find out which supplier to go with to get a smart meter which would allow future switching retaining smart functionality with minimum fuss.

Currently suppliers are incentivised to install smart meters where none exist, so it is reasonable to assume they will continue to do that in preference to exchanging modules to enhance smart meter functionality - unless there are new financial incentives for them to do the exchanges.

In theory it is possible to swap the engine 'module' to convert your diesel car into a petrol one and avoid the 'dirty diesel' penalties. But in practice few people would do that as it is likely to be cheaper and simpler to just scrap the old one and to buy a new car. I expect by the time people get round to doing SMETS1 to SMETS2 hardware conversions it will not be economically viable to do so for many meters.

grade15

jackandcoke wrote: »

So what are you worried about if you switch? No automatic readings? energy monitory not working?

imagine, taking time off work to install a smart meter and in the future you change supplier, then the smart meter doesn't work with the new supplier..
would it be redundant?

grade15

Hengus wrote: »

Within the next three years, all smart meters will be installed or modified to work with a central data/communications hub. First generation meters that cannot be updated will be deemed stranded assets and replaced. If you are looking for a definitive list of smart meter compatibility between individual suppliers, then you will be lucky to find one.

that is why I am asking the community? or does the energy supplier give you an option to choose what type of smart meter you prefer? and then go to this list and see if it can be still used if I change suppliers..I don't want to take time off to stay at home to the installation and when I change suppliers, take time off again to take out the old one and put in the new one!

System

grade15 wrote: »

that is why I am asking the community? or does the energy supplier give you an option to choose what type of smart meter you prefer? and then go to this list and see if it can be still used if I change suppliers..I don't want to take time off to stay at home to the installation and when I change suppliers, take time off again to take out the old one and put in the new one!

You do not get a choice other than take it or leave it. Given that there supposedly 56M of these things to be installed, do not expect a new smart meter each time you change your supplier. The Govt has directed the Data Communications Company to look for adoption solutions for all first-generation meters by 2020. From 2019 onwards (not allowing for any more delays in this mis-managed project), all new smart meter installs should be SMETS2 meters which are not supplier dependent.

Remember, a smart meter is still a meter. If it cannot talk electronically to your supplier then you just have to go out and read it.

House_Martin

EachPenny wrote: »

You say:-

...but that doesn't mean it is going to happen. The OP is trying to find out which supplier to go with to get a smart meter which would allow future switching retaining smart functionality with minimum fuss.

Currently suppliers are incentivised to install smart meters where none exist, so it is reasonable to assume they will continue to do that in preference to exchanging modules to enhance smart meter functionality - unless there are new financial incentives for them to do the exchanges.

In theory it is possible to swap the engine 'module' to convert your diesel car into a petrol one and avoid the 'dirty diesel' penalties. But in practice few people would do that as it is likely to be cheaper and simpler to just scrap the old one and to buy a new car. I expect by the time people get round to doing SMETS1 to SMETS2 hardware conversions it will not be economically viable to do so for many meters.

You re making a bad guess
.Landis and Gyr would not have specified module exchanges if it was nt going to be used in the first place.
Not sure why you`re going on about diesel/petrol car theory .
Try another comparison.
Meter readers like myself are competent on battery exchanges on gas meters. We also did sim card exchanges on the first generation smart electric meters . It could be every bit as easy as that in practice.
BG have fitted around 2.5 million Landis Gyr Libra 310 smart gas meters. Its very cost effective just to update a bit of hardware rather than face unscrewing the whole meter with its gas purge problem and boiler relights with old style boilers.