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Farmers' tractors / tractor + trailer combo

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  • DoaM
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    James_N wrote: »
    What is even funnier is people with nothing better to do than be difficult or critical of an evening.

    Try being constructive could you?

    Welcome to the real world of public forums ... people can post what they like as long as they're posting within the forum rules.

    Your forum signature is nonsense, and pointing that out is a reasonable response. :)
  • forgotmyname
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    He even sent me a PM saying that he puts it to prevent parking companies from using it against him..

    My answer was he is deluded if he thinks a publicly viewable forum cannot be copy and pasted.
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • loskie
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    NIMBYism at its finest.
  • Its funny the OP asking such questions.

    I guess you have too look beyond what they are asking and ask yourself, why are they asking such technical questions about a tractor driving between different fields?

    Are they discriminatory about Farmers, Tractors , trailers or any combination utilising a road?

    One can only speculate !
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  • Herzlos
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    I think legally tractors don't need to be registered if they are only moving between sites, I remember a 10 mile/year limit being mentioned but I'm not sure where that comes from. It's entirely unenforceable though.

    If the farmer is causing a nuisance / blocking roads / leaving debris everywhere, then by all means have a chat with the local constabulary, otherwise there's probably better things to get upset about.

    The 1.5km limit for red diesel applies to road vehicles only. If you're using a car/van/etc on a farm you can use red diesel, but if you're caught with red diesel more than 1.5km from the farm you're in serious trouble for tax evasion. The restriction doesn't apply to specific farm equipment - tractors, harvesters etc; you're not going to be taking a tractor to the office or the shops on red diesel to save money - the hassle, speed and massive fuel consumption would defeat the point.
  • loskie
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    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/agricultural-vehicle-licences-and-fuel

    dont know why you are asking here instead of just using google.
  • You seem to be looking for a fight with this farmer. Do you have a personal vendetta against him perhaps?

    What I can do is explain a bit about our industry which might answer some of the questions for those that are really interested.

    So firstly tractors on roads. The law is clear on conditions of vehicles and roadworthiness, maximum weights, braking efficiency and licensing etc. All of which can be found on the gov link in this thread as already posted. However a point to add is that majority of farmers know if you have a tailback of cars behind you, you pull in when safe to do so to allow the vehicles to pass. There have been instances where tractor drivers have been prosecuted for not doing this.

    With regards to us using the roads then we have as much right as your car, a hgv, a motorbike, a horse, a pushbike or a walker.

    Why are the animals away from the main holding? Well lots of reasons such as stocking rates where by you can only have a certain number of livestock per acre so if there are not enough acres at the main farm you put your animals elsewhere. Another reason is supermarkets because they drive down food prices to keep YOU happy. This means farmers can’t charge what they need to, to make a small farm viable. Therefore farms have to be bigger which means renting land further afield from the main holding in order to reduce costs as the more animals/crops they produce the more they can spread their costs thus reducing the sale price of the produce YOU subsequently buy from the supermarket.

    ‘Darling Buds Of May’ farming doesn’t exist I’m afraid, so if you do not like it then of course you could always move into a town centre where you won’t have to contend with farmers and tractors but instead much greater congestion of cars and hgv’s.
  • AdrianC
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    Mr_Farmer wrote: »
    However a point to add is that majority of farmers know if you have a tailback of cars behind you, you pull in when safe to do so to allow the vehicles to pass. There have been instances where tractor drivers have been prosecuted for not doing this.
    Which is, of course, no different to any other road user... Highway code 169.
  • Ectophile
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    edited 9 January 2018 at 11:47PM
    DoaM wrote: »
    What's even funnier is that he has no copyright whatsoever regarding whatever he posts here ... copyright actually belongs to MSE. ;)

    Somebody else hasn't read the Terms and Conditions either:
    "You own any copyright in the text that you post to our Forum".

    MSE does not want to be held legally responsible for something that some random person has decided to post to their forum.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
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