The Great Big Homelessness/Capitalism/Socialism Thread

Arklight

Moby wrote: »

Can you imagine living with such people!:- https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/04/tory-members-a-breed-apart-from-other-main-parties-study-finds

I live in the Home Counties so I don't really have to imagine it!


We have noticed a real shift lately when out canvassing though which is encouraging. What we're finding is that the poorer towns are moving quite a lot to the left as people are just getting so sick of all the cuts and getting over their baffling habit of voting for more every 5 years.


We got some great results in the council elections and turned a very safe Tory constituence into a marginal last year, , but the bulk of the out of town vote is pretty blue.

Cakeguts

Arklight wrote: »

I live in the Home Counties so I don't really have to imagine it!


We have noticed a real shift lately when out canvassing though which is encouraging. What we're finding is that the poorer towns are moving quite a lot to the left as people are just getting so sick of all the cuts and getting over their baffling habit of voting for more every 5 years.


We got some great results in the council elections and turned a very safe Tory constituence into a marginal last year, , but the bulk of the out of town vote is pretty blue.

Interesting this from the Guardian because it doesn't mention that many of the people who vote Conservative are working class and Corbyn is aiming at the middle class. So you can safely say that the views represented in the article are those of working class people. What does that tell us?

Moby

Cakeguts wrote: »

Interesting this from the Guardian because it doesn't mention that many of the people who vote Conservative are working class and Corbyn is aiming at the middle class. So you can safely say that the views represented in the article are those of working class people. What does that tell us?

Cakeguts its a poll profiling the views of the tory party membership and indicating how different these are from the other parties.

Arklight

Cakeguts wrote: »

Interesting this from the Guardian because it doesn't mention that many of the people who vote Conservative are working class and Corbyn is aiming at the middle class. So you can safely say that the views represented in the article are those of working class people. What does that tell us?

What does that have to do with the research in the article?

Malthusian

Arklight wrote: »

We have noticed a real shift lately when out canvassing though which is encouraging. What we're finding is that the poorer towns are moving quite a lot to the left as people are just getting so sick of all the cuts and getting over their baffling habit of voting for more every 5 years.

No excrement Sherlock. The Tories have now won three elections in a row. It was Labour's turn last time and they still managed to screw it up.

Arklight

Malthusian wrote: »

No excrement Sherlock. The Tories have now won three elections in a row. It was Labour's turn last time and they still managed to screw it up.

Yes, if you consider turning a 20 point lead and an election timed to suit you into failing to get enough seats to form a government and seeing your opponents gain dozens of seats, 'winning', the Tories are doing a great job.

Malthusian

Yes, the winner of the General Election is the one which gets the most seats and forms a government.

In next week's episode, we'll reveal who wins a football match, the team that scores the most goals or the team with the fewest.

Arklight

Malthusian wrote: »

Yes, the winner of the General Election is the one which gets the most seats and forms a government.

In next week's episode, we'll reveal who wins a football match, the team that scores the most goals or the team with the fewest.

Let's predict the result of the next football match shall we.

Clue: It’s not going to be the team full of lame donkeys that the fans all hate.

Moby

Cameron barely crossed the line to a coalition against a very unpopular PM. He then had to resign thereby ruining his 20 seat majority and just for good measure May turned that majority into a minority Govmt against an opponent the tories viewed with utter contempt until they had to take him on in a campaign. Now May is beleaguered and can do little apart from try and deliver a Brexit she doesnt even believe in herself.
I've also heard that the Tory party membership is down to around 75k and most of them are oldies with little future to look forward to.As the Stones track says.....Time is on my side...Yes it is.

GreatApe

Moby wrote: »

Cameron barely crossed the line to a coalition against a very unpopular PM. He then had to resign thereby ruining his 20 seat majority and just for good measure May turned that majority into a minority Govmt against an opponent the tories viewed with utter contempt until they had to take him on in a campaign. Now May is beleaguered and can do little apart from try and deliver a Brexit she doesnt even believe in herself.
I've also heard that the Tory party membership is down to around 75k and most of them are oldies with little future to look forward to.As the Stones track says.....Time is on my side...Yes it is.

Count your chickens all you like
4.5 years is a long time in politics

And time isn't on Corbyn side he will be 73 at the next GE asking the public to let a 73-78 year old communist run the country. No thanks.