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speedy2056

darich wrote: »

You're almost definitely breaking the rules here.
Every concert I've been to prohibits photography so you'll more than likely be ejected if you're caught taking pics.
And even bigger trouble if you're making money from pictures taken illegally.

Not quite sure why you mentioned being a wheelchair user - it's irrelevant.

Actually, the copyright of the photos are mine! Video? Different story if you are making money from it.

Video recording a concert isn't illegal as long as you don't make a profit from it.

And every concert apparently prohibit photography, yet, what are they going to do about those that film the bands from their mobile phones?

I went to see Iron Maiden once and the venue steward actually fetched my mate a camera to take pics of them!

It's not as touchy of a subject as you make out.

And I was making the point that being a wheelchair user makes it easier to hide SLR cameras. I'm not going to create sentences to perfection as you should have the foresight to know what I mean!

patman99

Thought it was time to create a composite list of all the sites mentioned so far. So here goes.

http://www.amc-photographics.com
hhttp://www.alamy.com
http://www.britishimages.co.uk/
http://www.deviantart.com
http://www.digitalmoods.co.uk
http://www.flickr.com
http://www.fotolia.co.uk
http://www.Imagekind.com
www.istockphoto.com
http://www.photobucket.com
http://www.photographersdirect.com
http://www.smugmug.com

darich

speedy2056 wrote: »

Actually, the copyright of the photos are mine! Video? Different story if you are making money from it.

Video recording a concert isn't illegal as long as you don't make a profit from it.

Copyright is your regardless of whether obtained legally or illegally. Not making money from it is irrelevant - and that's why it's sometimes difficult to get mp3s from itunes onto a different mp3 player. It's not because you're making money it's because it breaches copyright.

speedy2056 wrote: »

And every concert apparently prohibit photography, yet, what are they going to do about those that film the bands from their mobile phones?

Have you seen the quality of photos from mobile phones? especially in the dark?
no matter the number of megapixels in your phone, the quality at a concert will not be good enough to sell. anyone with an interest in photography would not use a camera phone for anything serious.

speedy2056 wrote: »

I went to see Iron Maiden once and the venue steward actually fetched my mate a camera to take pics of them!

That's the exception rather than the rule - I was at a pink floyd concert in 1994 (in Rotterdam Stadium) and everyone (and I mean everyone - all 80,000 or so) who entered the stadium was searched.

speedy2056 wrote: »

It's not as touchy of a subject as you make out.

Maybe not.....but for the majority of gigs the rules state no photography. It may be small print on the website you bought bthe tickets from or it may be on the back of the ticket. But if the rule is there, then you're breaking it. How strictly it is enforced will quite obviously be different at every concert.

speedy2056 wrote: »

And I was making the point that being a wheelchair user makes it easier to hide SLR cameras. I'm not going to create sentences to perfection as you should have the foresight to know what I mean!

I'm not a mind reader. You stated that "being a wheelchair user, I sneak in my slr camera at concerts". Neither I, nor anyone else here is looking for perfection, just sentences that say what the poster means.

Having said all the above, if you feel that it's not strictly enforced, you're not making money etc why do you feel the need to "sneak" a camera in?
If you used to sell celeb photos, even copies, then without the authorisation of the copyright holder, you're breaking the law.

Don't think I'm having a go - I'm not. I just think it's worth pointing out that doing what you're doing has risks. If you or someone else decides to sneak a camera in then go for it, but be prepared for any consequences.

I'm not holier than thou either - I sneaked my camera (top end compact) into that Pink Floyd concert and got some great shots. It was in the days before digital but I knew what I was doing so I loaded up with ultra fast film and took all my shots without flash.

patman99

I went with my son to see P!nk in Ipswich, the tickets clearly stated 'no audio or audio-visual equipment is allowed within the concert venue'. Yet within 5 days I was shown a superb photo taken on an 8.5M/p camera-phone, and if you google that particular concert there are loads of videos on youtube. Next time I head for a gig, I'll be loading-up my HS10.

Vaila

hi, ive just submitted a few images to alamy (heres hoping), does anyone know what amount of money is made from selling
thanks

liverpoolpictorial

darich wrote: »

Spam by any chance?

darich wrote: »

Move along please.

Is this really necessary? I took his post as merely advice. If you have proof he is spamming, please provide it.

sapman17

i wouldn't bother doing this as you can search for free photos.
that is what i did when setting adverts etc. and I put a couple of hundred decent photos of Carradale Scotland on Gb images and some others to sell never received a penny.

darich

liverpoolpictorial wrote: »

Is this really necessary? I took his post as merely advice. If you have proof he is spamming, please provide it.

I've been a member here for over 3 years and racked up a decent number of posts in a variety of subforums.
You would not believe the number of people who join here, post an ad, then never show up again.

I note that JamesPhotography joined on 29th June, made two posts, relating to advertising a website and hasn't posted since.

To me, it looks like I was right. On the other hand if JamesPhotography returns and posts useful information in a variety of subjects without advertising then I'll have been proved wrong.

darich

JamesPhotography wrote: »

My main interest is photography and I followed the forum for a while but never really had anything interesting to add to the conversations, so didn't sign up. I came across a site that I figured would be useful so signed up and told everyone about it, I thought that's what you're meant to do (I apologise if it came across as spam, it wasn't my intention).
I would post in other categories but as I'm only 19 I can't really add much to mortgage/insurance/holiday/credit card as I have no idea what I am talking about.

Apologies for jumping to what appears to be the wrong conclusion. :beer:
I had another look at the site you mentioned.
The thing to watch out for is the "prizes" as they call it.
One sale nets you £50 and a free print. Prints can be had for a few pounds so it's no major deal getting a freebie but the £50 is good.
For selling 50 prints you get an additional £100. But what happens if your image only sells another 30? On the face it you'd get nothing.
So that would be 31 prints sold and only £50 - works out at about £1.60 per print. Not very good.

But let's say you get the 50 sales and another £100. That's £150 for 51 sales. What happens if your numbers stall at 90 which is 10 short of the next payout?
That's 90posters sold for £150 - £1.67 per poster.

Now it might be great thinking that you've sold a poster but you're getting pennies for it.
Here's a typical example - Unknown prints sells an A1 print for £36. I can get a print from another website that size and at excellent quality for £5.99 (http://www.amc-photographics.com/posters-glossy.html) so UnknownPrints will get it significantly cheaper I suspect. That leaves £30.
From that £30, the photographer gets his share which might be a maximum of £3.85 or it could be as little as £1.60.
£1.60 is 4.4% of the poster price.
£3.85 is 9.4% of the poster price.

In contrast, I recently sold a canvas on another site for £73.60. Of that I received £20.
And if any more sell I receive £20 a time.

I did wonder - they say you get £50 plus an A1 print if your image is chosen for the shop. Is every image on the site, in their shop?

How many images have you sold via the site?

liverpoolpictorial

darich wrote: »

I've been a member here for over 3 years and racked up a decent number of posts in a variety of subforums.
You would not believe the number of people who join here, post an ad, then never show up again.

I note that JamesPhotography joined on 29th June, made two posts, relating to advertising a website and hasn't posted since.

To me, it looks like I was right. On the other hand if JamesPhotography returns and posts useful information in a variety of subjects without advertising then I'll have been proved wrong.

I've been a member of a number of forums for over 10 years, but that doesn't make me 3.3333 times more knowledgeable than yourself as to whether he spammed or not.

darich wrote: »

To me, it looks like I was right.

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