Scotland - Hotel - Parking Eye notice by post

pinklady21

Hello all - please be gentle I have not posted on this particular MSE board before!
The Issue:
The driver of the car attended an evening meeting at a hotel in Scotland. The meeting overran.
The driver of the car had no idea there were any parking restrictions in the hotel car park - apparently guests are supposed to check in their reg number at reception. This fact only came to light when checking the hotel's website after the keeper received a PCN. Hotel website also says that meeting guests have free parking.

Because the driver of the ca arrived slightly early (and paid for a sandwich and a drink in the bar beforehand) and the meeting overran, the car was in the car park for nearly 4 hours.
The Keeper has now been sent a parking charge notice for £100 reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days.

Questions:
1. As this is Scotland, is the keeper safe to ignore this completely? The notice shows pictures of the car and reg plate, but not the driver, as it was dark.

2. Is is sensible to contact the hotel and ask them what the story is here?

3. Anything else that should be done? eg contact the organisation who held the meeting and ask them to deal with it?

Thank you!

Quentin

Everyone is politely asked to read up on this in the Newbies FAQ thread near the top of the forum before starting a new thread

Go there now to learn about the game you are now caught up in.

The Scotland situation is covered there

Throughout here you are advised never to reveal who was driving.

You need to edit your op to remove details of who was driving

The_Deep

2. If I contact the hotel and ask them what the story is here, that will mean admitting to being the driver. Is that a bad move?

No, just say that you were an occupant of the car.

Fruitcake

As above, edit your post before you do anything else. Only ever refer to The Driver and The Keeper.

If you were an occupant of the car, as well as the vehicle keeper, you can complain to the hotel without giving away the driver's details. Make sure you contact the hotel manager, not front desk or admin staff.

pinklady21

Thank you for your prompt replies - o/p is duly edited.
I have read the Newbies post, and the advice here has also been helpful.

I will contact the hotel manager without giving any details of who was driving and ask them to deal with the PCN.
Does anyone know if that is likely to be successful? Or should the PCN be ignored?
Thanks

Redx

try it , landowner complaints can often bear fruit

as this is Scotland , you should have read it can be ignored

as for "safely" , depends if the PPC try a court case in the sheriffs court , never say never, but its unlikely UNLESS they know who was driving, hence the earlier advice

blabbing can cost people a lot of money , so edit that post #1 ASAP please

KeithP

More editing required to your opening post.

Remove any doubt.

It was the driver who attended an evening meeting.

It was the driver that had no idea...

It was the driver that arrived slightly early.


This is not just pedantic rubbish.
The private parking companies trawl forums like this just waiting for people to trip themselves up.

Coupon-mad

Does anyone know if that is likely to be successful?

Yes, the first link in the NEWBIES thread takes you to a very looong thread of successful complaints to retailers/landowners, including Hotels. That's why it's Plan A, even in Scotland.

beamerguy

[QUOTE=pinklady21;73566622
Questions:
1. As I am in Scotland, am I safe to ignore this completely? The notice shows pictures of my car and reg plate, but not the driver, as it was dark.

2. If I contact the hotel and ask them what the story is here, that will mean admitting to being the driver. Is that a bad move?

3. Anything else I should do? eg I could contact the organisation who invited me to the meeting and ask them to deal with it?

Thank you![/QUOTE]

Firstly, you must read NEWBIES thread which gives you
a lot of good info.

Parking Eye have only been given the keepers name and
address so NO DRIVERS INFO IS AVAILABLE ,,KEEP IT THAT WAY
YOU ARE IN SCOTLAND and PE do not know who was driving

The hotel is at fault for not telling customers and they cannot
rely on their website to expect customers to see.

First point of contact is the Hotel and or the CEO.
Request it is cancelled

Second point is to tell the company who invited you
to the meeting to complain to the hotel and get this cancelled.
It's either repeat business for the hotel or not

Parking Eye do not relent easily but ..... we know they lie,
See this recent thread ...
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5758443

Murdo Fraser MSP in Scotland has proposed new regulation
regarding the parking cowboys.
http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/murdo-fraser-msp-introduces-proposed.html

Murdo is making a huge mistake by proposing that the
keeper is liable which will open a huge money pot for the
parking cowboys and this will result in the Scottish
court system will be over run by vermin.

You and Scottish residents should respond to the consultation and to do so before 2 March 2018

Taking your story, right now, PE will not know who the
driver is/was and so its difficult for them

If Murdo has his way ....... PE would sue you with no problem

We have enough daft MP's down south, get people to have
a word in Murdo's shell like ear

pinklady21

OK - clearly private parking notices are a total minefield where usual rules of fairplay don't seem to apply!!
The keeper will contact the hotel in the first instance and without giving any details of who was driving the car, will ask their advice.

It so happens that the same evening there was a large public event held in this hotel, not sure if that will help or hinder matters!

The_Deep

A word on TripAdvisor would not go amiss.