Will they go to court or not?

nosferatu1001

Rizla - a statement of truth is just that - a sentence stating this is truthful, and NOT a form. CM never mentioned a form, only you did.

Noone ever fills out a physical form and sends it in, as you dont then have your own version to look at, dont have assurance it is received, etc.

Are you making a counterclaim? if YES, what were your grounds? If YES, have you paid the appropriate fee? Dont ask what the fee is, you MUST know...

rizla01

nosferatu1001 wrote: »

Rizla - a statement of truth is just that - a sentence stating this is truthful, and NOT a form. CM never mentioned a form, only you did.

Noone ever fills out a physical form and sends it in, as you dont then have your own version to look at, dont have assurance it is received, etc. .

I went here http://hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/HMCTS/GetForm.do?court_forms_id=659

and filled the form in on-screen and printed it (I could print as many as I wanted) and I am able to sign this, copy (Scan) the end result and send a copy in to court. That way I DO have my own version
So are we saying that this is not suggested for some reason?

nosferatu1001 wrote: »

Are you making a counterclaim? if YES, what were your grounds? If YES, have you paid the appropriate fee? Dont ask what the fee is, you MUST know...

I am aware that to counterclaim it costs and yes, I am aware of those costs so the answer is
NO.
But as i understand it, (Hopefully) a claim for for the day can be claimed in court on the day?
Fares Etc.

rizla01

claxtome wrote: »

Was the form used for the original submission of defence?

The form that was sent to her was the form that was filled in.
I have no idea what form that was.

SHE dealt with that and I didn't see it.
We live 15 miles apart

The form I refer to was the form the court told me to download when I called them a week ago.

Quentin

rizla01 wrote: »

I filled the form in on-screen and printed it (I could print as many as I wanted) and I am able to sign this, copy (Scan) the end result and send a copy in to court. That way I DO have my own version
So are we saying that this is not suggested for some reason?.

You must get the original and use the wording on that as advised.


But DO NOT SIGN IT YOURSELF!!;

The recipient of the court order (your daughter) must comply with the order and sign it!!

nosferatu1001

OK, so a few posts further on we are back to:
A copy of fhe already filed defence MUST BE OBTAINED, and MUST then be signed and sent back. No ifs or buts, tell us when this is done.

You dont make a "claim" on the day. Costs. Costs. Costs. These are costs of the day - max half a day loss of earnings or leave, mileage / bus fare, parking. All must have evidence to support.

rizla01

I am about to send my Email of to PE and someone mentioned that I cannot claim as I have in the letter posted prior.

So could anyone tell me PLEASE?

Can someone claim 'Grace Period' as an argument for overstaying parking times as well as 'Inadequately signed area'?

It just seems that if you haven't read the signs due to the second argument, how can you claim for the first argument?

Also can you still claim 'Grace period' if you read the signs AFTER shopping, but before leaving the area?

Although a general question I actually NEED to know this before sending my Email to PE (Which I am waiting to do) as I have actually used BOTH arguments in my letter to them

rizla01

I now have in my hands a (Emailed) copy of the original Defence form - N9B -sent to me by the Courts for my daughter to sign and return.

I will use the 'copy' as it has been initialed by a court official and I assume that the 'Statement of Truth' on the second page is all that is required?

nosferatu1001

the first grace priod isnt just for reading signs. its for entering the controlled area, finding a space, parking, etc.

Yes, signed under the statement of truth.

rizla01

nosferatu1001 wrote: »

the first grace priod isnt just for reading signs. its for entering the controlled area, finding a space, parking, etc.

Yes, signed under the statement of truth.

Brilliant. Finally nearing the end now.

Thanks Nosferatu.
Would you suggest that I should now send my email as is to PE?


The way i see it is that you only really get one go at this so I am worried about getting it wrong.

claxtome

Can someone claim 'Grace Period' as an argument for overstaying parking times as well as 'Inadequately signed area'?

It just seems that if you haven't read the signs due to the second argument, how can you claim for the first argument?

I am no expert and fully understand you wanting an answer but
If it was an 'Inadequately signed area' surely it takes longer to read signs and eat into your allowable grace period (first grace period at least).
I personally would include both arguments.

Question for you->
Can you point us to the post number/person who suggested it was a problem to help the forum answer your question?