Marvel hotel Mandalay Myanmar (Burna)

Shimrod

Williewonthe wrote: »

A final thought:

Would there have been such comments as:

Yes, always be cautious when travelling, but expecting the same safety standards in some destinations abroad (particularly in a relatively new tourist destination such as Myanmar), is just unrealistic.

Travel is an adventure....

Personally, I do not think it realistic to expect high safety standards once one is outside the civilised world (ie the European Union).

You're right, better not travel. In fact, probably best to never leave the house unless absolutely necessary.

If I had warned about a Burmese airline that did not have safety procedures or systems?

Have you checked the safety record of some of the Myanmar airlines?

Also you should know that a lift in the UK does not have to have a backup power supply unless it is designated as an evacuation lift - so you would have fared no better here than in Myanmar.

You've been unfortunate enough to be in a lift in a power cut which could have happened anywhere, and you have chosen to take your anger out on the hotel involved which seems a bit unfair. I don't see that the hotel deserves such an attack.

Williewonthe

Well I do.

If you read the non-joined-up writing again you will see that my anger is directed at the fact that it was impossible to alert people to our predicament.

I have now received a reply from the owners of that hotel. They avoid answering my questions re our inability to advise anyone that we were stuck in one of their lifts or regarding the incompetence of their staff.

PompeyPete

Willie.....There's a few regulars on this forum who often visit SE Asian countries, and will have disaster or near disaster tales to tell. But most of us just put it all down to the experience of travelling to the far flung.

Keep your story for an after-dinner tale, I'm sure it'll get better every time you tell it.

Williewonthe

Pumpey Pete

Implying that I have given an account that is different from that witnessed by others and that I would (need to) embellish it for anyone else who I tell about it is beneath contempt.


To you I repeat my comments made above at 2nd Dec 17, 4:37 AM

Twopints

Williewonthe wrote: »

Pumpey Pete

Implying that I have given an account that is different from that witnessed by others and that I would (need to) embellish it for anyone else who I tell about it is beneath contempt.


To you I repeat my comments made above at 2nd Dec 17, 4:37 AM

Walliewonthe

Rubbish. He is advising you to get over it, in the nicest possible way.

littlereddevil

Posted by Williewonthe]Personally, I do not think it realistic to expect high safety standards once one is outside the civilised world (ie the European Union).

As Grenfell Tower shows, this kind of thing can be found uncomfortably close to home -- and BREXIT can only make matters worse.[/QUOTE]



Really? Only the EU is civilised?

dickydonkin

PompeyPete wrote: »

Willie.....There's a few regulars on this forum who often visit SE Asian countries, and will have disaster or near disaster tales to tell. But most of us just put it all down to the experience of travelling to the far flung.

Keep your story for an after-dinner tale, I'm sure it'll get better every time you tell it.

This just about sums it up for me.

Although I accept being stuck in a lift is not ideal (I was last year at a hotel in Bangkok where I managed to phone my wife to plan an escape), you really need to move on and just put it down to experience.

As PP alluded to, we all have stories from travelling the world that for whatever reason would just not happen at home - that is the beauty of travelling - if everywhere was sterile and risk free, travel would be boring.

I am not suggesting anyone intentionally places themselves at risk, as with most places in the world, you still need to keep your wits about you, but you should focus on the positive elements of your destination and trip because this incident will tarnish the good memories you have from it.

Williewonthe wrote: »

A final thought:

Would there have been such comments as:

If I had warned about a Burmese airline that did not have safety procedures or systems?

We are debating being stuck in a lift where nobody was placed in danger, nobody was injured and nobody died.

Comparing such a scenario with airline safety where a breach of safety or human error could be catastrophic is pushing comparisons a little wayward.

marky_p

Voyager2002 wrote: »

Personally, I do not think it realistic to expect high safety standards once one is outside the civilised world (ie the European Union). Part of the lack of acceptable safety standards would be the lack of any plan for when things go wrong: hence the receptionish simply shrugging when confronted with the situation, since he was not aware of anything that he could do.

As Grenfell Tower shows, this kind of thing can be found uncomfortably close to home -- and BREXIT can only make matters worse.

The 1920s called..they're wondering where you went.