Marvel hotel Mandalay Myanmar (Burna)

dickydonkin

Voyager2002 wrote: »

As Grenfell Tower shows, this kind of thing can be found uncomfortably close to home -- and BREXIT can only make matters worse.

That is a ridiculous statement - Such an assertion may be deemed by many as scaremongering from a bitter remoaner.

With respect to Uk health and safety legislation, EU safety directives were enshrined into UK health and safety law and once the Brexit process has been completed, the legislation will still remain.

We adapted our legislation to incorporate the EU directives and despite a degree of repetition with our own laws, they are now implemented regardless.

I cannot speak for building regulations, but the cladding on Grenfell Towers was installed while we were still within the EU, so our membership of the EU sadly did nothing for the poor victims of the fire.

There will always be elements in construction who will accept ‘incentives’ to keep costs down and circumvent legislation to line their own pockets to the detriment of the safety of people.

There are robust laws out there - unfortunately, austerity has led to the reduction of the manpower to monitor and enforce the legislation that is there to protect all of us.

Sadly, this governments priorities seem to be targeted to staying in power rather than focusing on ensuring legislation that is there to protect us is enforced.

The irony of this thread is that someone raises concerns over a safety issue in a country on the other side of the world, but we still have people in the UK ridiculing our H&S legislation who are prepared to extol the virtues of our health and safety in the UK by suggesting that you should not expect the same safety standards abroad with what we have at home.

In the UK, we have one of the best occupational safety records in the world - I fully expect that to be constant once Brexit is implemented.

Williewonthe

Westin

A
“Avoid this hotel then. Apparently the lifts can stop if there is a power cut.”
Thank you for your sarcasm
It’s obvious that “lifts (and other facilities) can stop if there is a power cut”.
What I was driving at (as you well know) is that at that hotel, if the power goes off, there is no working mechanism for warning anyone of this.


B
“What are you hoping to achieve at this time,.?”
To tell people about the possible dangers of staying at this hotel


C
“Travel is an adventure....”
Being stuck in a lift, with no way to tell people ourselves –apart from banging on the doors - and when the guide warns a member of staff, that member of staff is incompetent IS NOT MY IDEA OF AN ADVENTURE.

PompeyPete

Voyager2002 wrote: »

As Grenfell Tower shows, this kind of thing can be found uncomfortably close to home -- and BREXIT can only make matters worse.

Stupid comment, I thought you were better than that.:(:(

blindman

PompeyPete wrote: »

The best way to visit Burma is independently.

Had a brilliant time, and are still in touch with our driver, who now has his own tour business, and a much new vehicle.

Shimrod wrote: »

We flew between our main locations (Yangon, Inle Lake, Mandalay and Bagan), but did take the 'fast' boat between Mandalay and Bagan.
For blindman, the Bagan King (in Mandalay) was a good hotel, and not too many stairs!

Don't want to hijack this thread but did either of you put a trip report on TA or elsewhere?

save me asking you a ton of Q's :rotfl:

jpsartre

Williewonthe wrote: »

Do YOU want to stay in a hotel where, if there is an emergency and the main power is off, you probably can’t get out?

You're right, better not travel. In fact, probably best to never leave the house unless absolutely necessary.

PompeyPete

blindman wrote: »

Don't want to hijack this thread but did either of you put a trip report on TA or elsewhere?

save me asking you a ton of Q's :rotfl:

Yep, both on TA and MSE. But it's 7 years since we were there. General stuff might not have changed much, but specifics will have.

I can give you a nailed-on recommendation for an excellent english speaking driver/guide if you want, but I'm in Spain at the moment and the details are at home. I won't be back until the 13th of this month.

He took us to Bago, Taungoo, Bagan, Mt Popa, Mandalay, Pwin oo Lwin, Kalaw, Inle Lake, and back to Rangoon.

Shimrod

blindman wrote: »

Don't want to hijack this thread but did either of you put a trip report on TA or elsewhere?

save me asking you a ton of Q's :rotfl:

Neither, ask away! I was there in February/March this year

Williewonthe

jpsartre
A friend of mine once said that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and the highest form of intelligence.
You obviously disprove the accuracy of the second part of that statement.

To those readers who are too intellectually challenged to recognise that I am trying to warn them of the potential dangers of staying at a particular hotel, I say: “Have a look at the words of Basil Fawlty to the assembled guests when he is trying to organise a fire drill”.

As Smokey Robinson sang: ”I second that emotion”.

PompeyPete

I've seen your review on TA.....that should cover a decently sized audience to get your message out.

Williewonthe

A final thought:

Would there have been such comments as:

Yes, always be cautious when travelling, but expecting the same safety standards in some destinations abroad (particularly in a relatively new tourist destination such as Myanmar), is just unrealistic.

Travel is an adventure....

Personally, I do not think it realistic to expect high safety standards once one is outside the civilised world (ie the European Union).

You're right, better not travel. In fact, probably best to never leave the house unless absolutely necessary.

If I had warned about a Burmese airline that did not have safety procedures or systems?