Storage Heaters vs Infared panels?

NittyGritty

does anyone here have any infared panels installed,


I,m currently storage heaters, but have looked into infared panels, (due to 1 storage heater died on me)


my question is are they all that they are cracked up to be?


for example would a 350watt infared panel heat up an average room just the same as a storage heater would in the day?


ive seen these


https://www.theecostore.co.uk/eco-store/buy-infrared-heating-panels/


just want to get some of your thoughts on them, I have my doubts on 1st impressions, judging by how small and thing they look


call me a sceptic lol


just don't want to invest in these if they don't produce enough heat like my storage heaters do in the day when they are charged up at night on cheap rate


your thoughts?

Phil3822

The infrared panel would work out more expensive due to use of day rate electric where as night storage heaters use cheaper night rate assuming you are on economy 7.

NittyGritty

the example table below says differently?


https://www.thegreenage.co.uk/the-running-costs-of-infrared-heating/


figures based on standard 12.5p kwh


1 hour usage for 400w infared panel is just 5p
compared to 15p on normal heater


even if the heater was on a cheap night rate for 7 hours of lets say 6pkwh


the infared panel would work out even cheaper on night rate for those 7 hours of night use no ?


and I,m assuming the savings you make on that you could even put it on for a few hours in the day too and still work out the same/cheaper as storage heater


or am I wrong on those examples?

Phil3822

I could go into detail but this previous thread may be of some help: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/1951087

There would be no benefit using the infrared at night when in bed, you would need these on during the daytime when you are home. As far as I know they don't store anything so 1kw of electric used will produce 1kw of heat equivalent at peak day rate.

I would also advise reading any independent studies if any exist, not ones that form an advertisement or sales tactic.

There are others that are much more clued up and will probably explain in better detail but hope I am some help.

daveyjp

NittyGritty wrote: »

the example table below says differently?


https://www.thegreenage.co.uk/the-running-costs-of-infrared-heating/


figures based on standard 12.5p kwh


1 hour usage for 400w infared panel is just 5p
compared to 15p on normal heater


even if the heater was on a cheap night rate for 7 hours of lets say 6pkwh


the infared panel would work out even cheaper on night rate for those 7 hours of night use no ?


and I,m assuming the savings you make on that you could even put it on for a few hours in the day too and still work out the same/cheaper as storage heater


or am I wrong on those examples?

That website is complete garbage and designed to be to sell products. It ignores basic physics.

If a 400w heater costs 5p, a 100w heater would only cost 1.25p, ‘saving’ even more over a ‘normal’ heater - whatever that is.

With electric you get out what you put in.

A 500w heater will cost half as much to run as a 1,000w heater, but it needs to be on twice as long to produce the same amount of heat.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Garbage in garbage out. Read one of many hundreds, and learn.

Cardew

NittyGritty wrote: »

the example table below says differently?


https://www.thegreenage.co.uk/the-running-costs-of-infrared-heating/


figures based on standard 12.5p kwh


1 hour usage for 400w infared panel is just 5p
compared to 15p on normal heater


even if the heater was on a cheap night rate for 7 hours of lets say 6pkwh


the infared panel would work out even cheaper on night rate for those 7 hours of night use no ?


and I,m assuming the savings you make on that you could even put it on for a few hours in the day too and still work out the same/cheaper as storage heater


or am I wrong on those examples?

Why not try this heater:
Hylite Slimline Eco Heater - 55W Tube heater with thermostat (500mm)




At only 55 watts it will cost well under 1p(one penny) an hour to run; and it is also 100% efficient

NittyGritty

wow thanks for that find, hope u didn't go to too much trouble to find that for me lol


I'll be sure to keep it in mind,


thanks for your sarcasm all the same

macman

A tiny bit of sarcasm maybe-but also a whole heap of good advice to stop your billing going through the roof when you try to heat to the same level using day rate E7 at 300% more than night rate.
400W of energy from an infrared heater has no more or no less heat than that from any other device.
The answer is simple-get your NSH repaired, it's probably just the element or thermocouple, both cheap as chips to fix. There's not much else to go wrong with a big metal box full of bricks!

ProDave

Also, Infra red heaters are mainly radiant heat, whereas a storage heater gives out mainly convected heat.

Convected heat will heat the whole room.

Radiant heat will really only heat things (you) in front of the heater. Move away from the heater and you will feel cold. Like the days when the only heat was an open coal fire, your front was roasting and your back was freezing.

Where they do work well is for occasional heat to a big cold building, e,g a stone church, where they will give some warmth to the congregation without having to raise the air temperature in the whole building.

mumf

We actually have infra red heaters.Therefore I feel I am qualified to comment .They work.Yes,electric heating costs,but it is 100% efficient.The IR panels heat up FAST.They need small,well insulated rooms,then they rock!