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Planning for Flue / Chimney

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  • Gorie
    Gorie Posts: 140 Forumite
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    Anyone know any tools to make architectural drawings?

    Reading all the above:

    Planning where permitted developments have been removed (in Oxford) is free (not sure about elsewhere).

    I would love to actually build an eco house but everything can be argued (wood vs gas, cost of installation materials and environmental costs in production etc...) the crunch of it is I my fire would be environmentally friendly and its personal taste etc... Most companies that sell the wood state they plant two trees for one chopped down making this sustainable (although trees do take time to grow). I use gas too and would use more if I could plant some dinosaurs :wink:

    From what I understand a properly heat rated fire (i.e. not too big for the room in terms of kw output) encourages hot and efficient burning and therefore the hot smoke rises quickly and dissipates rapidly. Larger fires are often not fully lit and therefore do not burn as efficiently. Of course what you burn is important too.

    All that said - I need to now draw a plan of my chimney - before I get my graph paper our or a scale ruler does anyone know of any free programmes / apps I can do this in?

    Thanks
  • Gorie
    Gorie Posts: 140 Forumite
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    Thanks for that - Smart draw looks good.

    Looks like i'll have a log burner in time for summer!
  • martinsurrey
    martinsurrey Posts: 3,368 Forumite
    Gorie wrote: »

    Planning where permitted developments have been removed (in Oxford) is free (not sure about elsewhere).



    Gorie wrote: »
    Thanks for that - Smart draw looks good.

    Looks like i'll have a log burner in time for summer!

    Are you in Oxford?

    Have you read the article 4 direction?

    An article 4 direction doesn't necessarily remove ALL permitted development rights, they remove specific rights, which are detailed in the direction.

    https://www.oxford.gov.uk/downloads/20189/article_4_directions

    No mention of removing the right to an external chimney.
  • Waterlily24
    Waterlily24 Posts: 1,328 Forumite
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    When we did our extension we weren't allowed to have the chimney stack on the outside so it takes up space in the lounge and one of the bedrooms. We live in a semi rural area with no near neighbours.
  • Gorie
    Gorie Posts: 140 Forumite
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    Thanks Martin - I've looked on that link but does it not pertain to just Article 4 directions for HMO and change in usage (residential to commercial) not too sure how this applies to just residential properties.
  • aneary
    aneary Posts: 921 Forumite
    Unless you walk to the managed wood, chop down the trees with your own hands using a saw or axe and then walk back home with the wood on your back, then there is still an environmental cost to the wood. That's apart from the loss of habitat for animals and flora.
    I take the point about the gas and electricity but just wanted to point out that there is an environmental cost to all fuels.
    Then there's the smoke that stoves emit and the smell... Which even if your stove meets current regs, as the ones in my area must do, then it is still inconsiderate to your neighbours.

    My parents had a tree in their garden that died (It was a huge tree) they have been using the wood for the last three years and probably have another three years to go.

    Dad cut it down and chopped it up, it's stored next to his workshop so no environmental costs there. :rotfl:
  • martinsurrey
    martinsurrey Posts: 3,368 Forumite
    Gorie wrote: »
    Thanks Martin - I've looked on that link but does it not pertain to just Article 4 directions for HMO and change in usage (residential to commercial) not too sure how this applies to just residential properties.

    It doesn't.

    That's my point.

    There are no Article 4 Directions (that I can find on the council website, which are normally 100% correct) that remove standard permitted development rights for home owners, at all, in Oxford.

    So no planning required at all for what you need.
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