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Stamp Duty – First time buyer definition

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[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]In the draft legislation accompanying today's announcement, 1st time buyers are defined as:-

[/FONT] “[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]has not previously been a purchaser in relation to a land transaction the main subject-matter of which was a major interest in a dwelling”

[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]There does not seem to be a definition of 'purchaser'. If for example a previous ownership had been inherited that would not be a purchase so that person could still count as a 1st time buyer.

[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Is that correct?[/FONT]
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  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    Do you have a link to the draft Bill? I haven't found it yet.
  • Tom99
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    davidmcn wrote: »
    Do you have a link to the draft Bill? I haven't found it yet.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/stamp-duty-land-tax-relief-for-first-time-buyers
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    Tom99 wrote: »
    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]In the draft legislation accompanying today's announcement, 1st time buyers are defined as:-

    [/FONT] “[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]has not previously been a purchaser in relation to a land transaction the main subject-matter of which was a major interest in a dwelling”

    [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]There does not seem to be a definition of 'purchaser'. If for example a previous ownership had been inherited that would not be a purchase so that person could still count as a 1st time buyer.

    [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Is that correct?[/FONT]
    Section 43(4) has the definition - it doesn't include inheritance:
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/14/section/43
  • The updated calculator on hmrc website includes inheriting in the definition of previously owning :

    Have you ever owned or part owned another property?
    We only need to know about residential property, or property that has both residential and non-residential use. This includes freehold property, or leasehold property of at least 21 years. Select yes if you either:

    bought a property
    inherited a property
    are a beneficiary of a trust that owns a property

    Can't post this as a proper link but
    tax.service.gov.uk/calculate-stamp-duty-land-tax/#/intro
  • on the gov't stamp duty calculator it now asks for a date of transaction, and if it's today or after it asks:

    Have you ever owned or part owned another property?
    We only need to know about residential property, or property that has both residential and non-residential use. This includes freehold property, or leasehold property of at least 21 years. Select yes if you either:

    bought a property
    inherited a property
    are a beneficiary of a trust that owns a property

    So i assume that inherited properties are counted the same as purchased properties
  • MobileSaver
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    So i assume that inherited properties are counted the same as purchased properties

    Which would be fair enough really if correct. It would be hard for someone who had inherited a property worth tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of pounds to complain "life was unfair" that they then had to pay a few thousand in stamp duty!
    Every generation blames the one before...
    Mike + The Mechanics - The Living Years
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    So i assume that inherited properties are counted the same as purchased properties
    That doesn't seem to be what the draft legislation says though. Hmm.
  • kingstreet
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    davidmcn wrote: »
    That doesn't seem to be what the draft legislation says though. Hmm.
    Sorted by the time it gets through the various papers/committee/reading stages?
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • And what about house builders who offered to pay stamp duty. Will they now give a discount equivalent to that amount?
  • OK, so another question. On the gov calc it asks if the purchase will result in you owning 2 or more properties. It then asks if the new property will be replacing your main residence and if so it doesnt calculate the additional stamp duty.


    Now my situation is I currently rent but I did inherit part of my grandparents house. So I was under the impression that I no longer qualify as a FTB but virtue of owning part of anothe property. However, when I buy my new property it will be replacing my main place of residence so I need to pay the additional stamp duty?


    By answering the questions truthfully on the gov calculator it suggests I dont have to but I'm not sure thats right.
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