Buying a diesel (second hand nearly new)

TheMoonandBack

seatbeltnoob wrote: »

if you really need a diesel, then now is the time to strike. People getting rid of diesel cars thinking they'll have to pay fortunes in road tax next year, in actuality road tax increase is minuscule in comparison to the fuel savings.

government rarely increases taxes drastically, they'll probably make it £30 a year more expensive to tax or therabouts.

The fuel savings are reduced by the long term maintenance costs of modern diesel cars - AdBlue, DPF regens, eventual DPF failure, turbos, egr, dual mass flywheels. Add the fact that Diesel particulate emissions are harmful, and the result is that I personally wouldn’t have one again.
Modern car Diesel engines are barely more efficient than they were 10 years ago, but with loads of Heath Robinson devices bolted on to reduce emissions.

Herzlos

Inner_Zone wrote: »

The average break even mileage before any increases is considered to be between 15K to 20K miles per year. So your average is well below that.

That'd normally be the case, but when you're talking about a 7 seater SUV, they are probably quite hard to source in petrol, and you'd probably be looking at a 2.4+ litre which will have frankly awful performance and economy.

So the breakeven point is probably lower than the 9k/year, and the extra torque will make a huge difference to drivability.

imran22

Gloomendoom wrote: »

I suppose it does depend on what kind of SUV the OP needs/wants.

It's a Nissan X-Trail and I need automatic and for some reason there are none available in the country in Petrol with 7 seats. May be that variant doesn't exists.

I have checked Kia Sorento and Hyundai Santa and they are all diesels as well.

motorguy

AnotherJoe wrote: »

Mostly true I suspect but irrelevant. The 30% drop in diesel sales last month and the previous month, measured year over year is still a 30% drop whatever the cause.

It could even be that the drop is now causing further drops, it’s a vicious circle, you see a drop, that means no one wants one, so you decide you don’t want one adding to the decrease.

Manufacturer see that and issue statements saying they won’t be developing future diesel cars, adding to the decline, and so on.

p.s. i had foolishly missed that diesel seems to be the only option for this kind of car. Well, in that case suck it up but dont expect to get 50% back in 4 to 5 years, not gonna happen.

Drop in new car sales, does not equal drop in value of used ones.

I would say the most drop in sales is where there are viable petrol alternatives. With SUVs there tend not to be.

motorguy

imran22 wrote: »

It's a Nissan X-Trail and I need automatic and for some reason there are none available in the country in Petrol with 7 seats. May be that variant doesn't exists.

I have checked Kia Sorento and Hyundai Santa and they are all diesels as well.

Skoda Kodiaq is a 7 seater and can be got in petrol auto.

imran22

I have not seen anything about diesels in budget. Did I miss anything?

AdrianC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42056452
The BBC's "key points" says...

Vehicle excise duty for diesel cars that do not meet latest standards to rise by one band in April 2018

So that's pre-Euro6 diesels to go up one CO2 band?

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wymondham

Not sure I'd be looking at Diesel now as resale prices are dropping off a cliff since they are the son of the Devil, plus new diesels this year have fallen by a third.

Aylesbury_Duck

wymondham wrote: »

Not sure I'd be looking at Diesel now as resale prices are dropping off a cliff since they are the son of the Devil, plus new diesels this year have fallen by a third.

Might be just the right time to buy one if you're going to run it until it's very old or until it's scrapped.

motorguy

wymondham wrote: »

Not sure I'd be looking at Diesel now as resale prices are dropping off a cliff since they are the son of the Devil, plus new diesels this year have fallen by a third.

Absolutely no evidence from the motor trade to support that.