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Win 10, is it spyware?

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  • unforeseen
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    They use Linux to access/patch/reboot/etc the servers so pretentiously coming into contact with the data. Just because some Doris in a DWP office somewhere uses Win10 doesn't mean that is the law.
    It does when it is mandated that unless there are compelling reasons government/public service desktop system must be run on a manufacturer's supported OS.

    Just because the use Linux to access the systems for maintenance doesn't mean that those servers are actually Linux - its a 99.999% certainty they are not
  • unforeseen wrote: »
    It does when it is mandated that unless there are compelling reasons government/public service desktop system must be run on a manufacturer's supported OS.

    Just because the use Linux to access the systems for maintenance doesn't mean that those servers are actually Linux - its a 99.999% certainty they are not

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  • AndyCF
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    From my own perspective I'm currently on 7, the reason being I tried the 8 then 8.1 upgrade out when it was offered to me (they even sent me a DVD of it) and I tried to like it for a good six months but could not stand it.

    I then freshly installed 10 but had odd driver issues and the size of the updates was annoying due to the larger ones almost appearing to be "complete builds" aka a couple of GB

    Privacy ? My own thought on this which is likely completely wrong is I'm (personally) not that convinced that 10 is doing anything that lets say "previous versions" are not capable of doing anyway. :) random example here

    Not fussed on a personal basis about things like that though.

    I'll stick with 7 for the next year again or so then migrate back to 10
  • AndyPix
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    Sorry but I beg to differ. I work for a large company and we still have Windows XP on a lot of stuff. It all depends how it's used.


    If that is true then your large company needs closing down. I certainly hope they are not handling any sensitive data because a 12 year old script kiddie with a copy of kali could rinse you in a heartbeat.


    expection : there are a small number of VERY large strategic businesses that use XP for some systems still but pay microsoft a HUGE amount of money to provide bespoke updates and support

    They use Linux to access/patch/reboot/etc the servers so pretentiously coming into contact with the data. Just because some Doris in a DWP office somewhere uses Win10 doesn't mean that is the law.


    You have no idea what you are talking about
  • System
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    edited 20 November 2017 at 5:50PM
    Yeah yeah whatever. Doesn't stop every flavour of Linux still working on them if they are so designed for latest Windows.

    You mean the latest versions of every flavour of Linux running a Kernel which supports them. So even Linux needs to be an up to date version with a kernel written in the last few years. Good luck getting an old Kernel to work without a screen of Kernel Panics on boot up.

    I've come across Linux Loonies like you in the past. You shout Linux at every opportunity, bleat on about Evil Micro$haft and Winblows or Windoze 10 or whatever the latest meme for Windows is nowadays and bang on like you're a Linux god when the truth is that all you did was burn an ISO of Ubuntu, boot your PC from the disc and click install, was lucky enough to have supported hardware that worked OOTB. The only reason you can run Linux is because distro creators such as Canonical and the Linux Mint Project have made installers so easy that even the most incompetent PC users can install it but I can guarantee that if I shoved the Arch Linux installer in your hand you'd be completely shafted because you wouldn't even know where to start as all you're faced with is a command prompt from the installation ISO and that is it. No install button to click, no single command to run which fires up any kind of written application to install the OS

    You and your LL friend's actual knowledge of how Linux works tends to be nought or not much above and depends on spending lots of time Googling every single thing hence you making a complete clown of yourself when you didn't in your post above by saying every flavour of Linux works with them when it doesn't.
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  • RumRat
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    Wow... take a couple of days off and the thread descends into a pi55ing contest between business users... meanwhile back on the humble home system. :D
    The use of the word 'spying' seems to get cold war veterans all fired up, but, has the newer generations willing to trade some privacy for more convenience.
    Either way..... no one is forced to use any of it. ;)
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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 21 November 2017 at 1:23PM
    Tarambor wrote: »
    You mean the latest versions of every flavour of Linux running a Kernel which supports them. So even Linux needs to be an up to date version with a kernel written in the last few years. Good luck getting an old Kernel to work without a screen of Kernel Panics on boot up.

    I've come across Linux Loonies like you in the past. You shout Linux at every opportunity, bleat on about Evil Micro$haft and Winblows or Windoze 10 or whatever the latest meme for Windows is nowadays and bang on like you're a Linux god when the truth is that all you did was burn an ISO of Ubuntu, boot your PC from the disc and click install, was lucky enough to have supported hardware that worked OOTB. The only reason you can run Linux is because distro creators such as Canonical and the Linux Mint Project have made installers so easy that even the most incompetent PC users can install it but I can guarantee that if I shoved the Arch Linux installer in your hand you'd be completely shafted because you wouldn't even know where to start as all you're faced with is a command prompt from the installation ISO and that is it. No install button to click, no single command to run which fires up any kind of written application to install the OS

    You and your LL friend's actual knowledge of how Linux works tends to be nought or not much above and depends on spending lots of time Googling every single thing hence you making a complete clown of yourself when you didn't in your post above by saying every flavour of Linux works with them when it doesn't.

    No that's just what you think. I use both Windows and Linux on my machines.

    I was confirming that the Govt, or their contractors, don't exclusively use Microsoft on all their servers used in Govt projects.

    I never once said that any Linux distro was better than Windows. But obviously you're a Linux god because you've installed Arch from the command prompt.
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