Win 10, is it spyware?

[Deleted User]

What's the big deal about there being no new updates for Win7 apart from security fixes. What updates have we had exactly before mainstream support ended? That's right security fixes.

Win7 still does what I need so why upgrade to Win10 just yet.

unforeseen

For a business it's a big deal. In a lot of areas they need to be using a fully supported OS to get accreditation of their systems to allow them to handle certain data such as financial or even commercially sensitive,even more so if they are a government/public body.

Home users might not give a toss but business (who are probably the majority users) do

[Deleted User]

unforeseen wrote: »

For a business it's a big deal. In a lot of areas they need to be using a fully supported OS to get accreditation of their systems to allow them to handle certain data such as financial or even commercially sensitive,even more so if they are a government/public body.

Home users might not give a toss but business (who are probably the majority users) do

Sorry but I beg to differ. I work for a large company and we still have Windows XP on a lot of stuff. It all depends how it's used.

Also my BIL works for a large IT company that look after Govt database servers and they all use Linux.

System

Deleted_User wrote: »

Sorry but I beg to differ. I work for a large company and we still have Windows XP on a lot of stuff. It all depends how it's used.

Also my BIL works for a large IT company that look after Govt database servers and they all use Linux.

Keep using whatever software you want but windows 7 will go away one day.

I'm of the mind of moving forward with software and tech rather than hold onto stuff based on fears. I have more chance of getting hit by a bus than big establish software companies spying on me and making my life hell

toshi

For your references:

"The Win10 Privacy Trade off"
https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-519.htm

Interestingly Steve Gibson said he won't use Windows10
https://youtu.be/mfKZZa41LB8?t=1m30s

Windows 10 Spying is worse than I ever imagined
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVzc5wK2-pc

Windows 10 is spying on almost everything you do – here’s how to opt out
http://bgr.com/2015/07/31/windows-10-upgrade-spying-how-to-opt-out/

Even when told not to, Windows 10 just can’t stop talking to Microsoft
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

Essentially, so called Spyware allegation may be called as Microsoft User Privacy collection service, specified with the user agreement. MS wants to catch up with iPhone, Android business model. Even MS lost with Windows Mobile, Windows computer will be MS business opportunity.

Commend added from here

My business clients (including myself ) will continue to use Windows 7 (until 2019/20?) I personally have been using Windows7/LinuxMint before windows 10 release. LinuxMint is very beginner and Windows user friendly, If you just want to use application such as Libreoffice, VLC player, Firefox,Chrome without Microsoft Application and services, you may want to try LinuxMint

(I have no intention to play with OS sectarian wars as I have using Windows everyday as well as LinuxMint. )

Sick of Windows spying on you? Go Linux
http://www.zdnet.com/article/sick-of-windows-spying-on-you-go-linux/

https://linuxmint.com/

Happy computing!

unforeseen

Deleted_User wrote: »

Sorry but I beg to differ. I work for a large company and we still have Windows XP on a lot of stuff. It all depends how it's used.

Also my BIL works for a large IT company that look after Govt database servers and they all use Linux.

What has Linux to do with Windows? And server OS to do with desktop OS?

Have just spent a lucrative 4 weeks working for a government organisation to get their Windows 10 versioning to 1607 because support for 1511 was ceasing at the end of October. Without a supported version their system would lose its accreditation to handle sensitive information which is the majority of their work.

System

Deleted_User wrote: »

Illegal or not, it's all underhand and I still prefer to use Windows 7 which I do across 2 PCs and a Netbook.

Windows 7 phones home....

Microsoft have even done a shady deal with Intel to stop Windows 7 working on the latest processors. There is no real technical reason why Windows 7 can't run on newer processors, other than Microsoft wanting to shift everyone onto Win 10.

If you actually knew what you were talking about the reason is because Windows 7 was designed nearly 10 years ago before "system on a chip" CPUs existed. New Intel and AMD CPUs aren't just a CPU any more. They contain a GPU, wifi, bus controller etc. stuff which used to be done by separate hardware attached to the motherboard or part of the motherboard chipset. For Windows 7 to run on a modern CPU, device drivers and firmware need to emulate Windows 7’s requirements for interrupt processing, bus support, and power states. That requires time consuming and expensive writing of drivers and firmware for an operating system that is end of life which isn't going to happen and that is why new CPUs from both AMD and Intel are not supported on Windows 7. It has already started to be the case that manufacturers of new devices don't release drivers for Windows 7.

[Deleted User]

Tarambor wrote: »

Windows 7 phones home....


If you actually knew what you were talking about the reason is because Windows 7 was designed nearly 10 years ago before "system on a chip" CPUs existed. New Intel and AMD CPUs aren't just a CPU any more. They contain a GPU, wifi, bus controller etc. stuff which used to be done by separate hardware attached to the motherboard or part of the motherboard chipset. For Windows 7 to run on a modern CPU, device drivers and firmware need to emulate Windows 7’s requirements for interrupt processing, bus support, and power states. That requires time consuming and expensive writing of drivers and firmware for an operating system that is end of life which isn't going to happen and that is why new CPUs from both AMD and Intel are not supported on Windows 7. It has already started to be the case that manufacturers of new devices don't release drivers for Windows 7.

Yeah yeah whatever. Doesn't stop every flavour of Linux still working on them if they are so designed for latest Windows.

[Deleted User]

unforeseen wrote: »

What has Linux to do with Windows? And server OS to do with desktop OS?

They use Linux to access/patch/reboot/etc the servers so pretentiously coming into contact with the data. Just because some Doris in a DWP office somewhere uses Win10 doesn't mean that is the law.

giraffe69

No it isn't "the law" to use Windows 10 but touting Linux as a replacement for most users is just not going to fly. Windows 7 is the most popular OS at present although it is marginally declining. Win 10 will probably catch up in the second half of 2018. Win 7 4&% Win 10 30% Linux under 3%. Speaks for itself.