20 mph limits

Nodding_Donkey

I've noticed that in some areas these are very well signed with repeater signs all along the road. In these areas my TomTom also shows the limit as 20. In other areas, mainly south London, they just seem to paint 20 on the road and that is it. Is this deliberate entrapment or are the councils just trying it on?

Car_54

There are two distinct systems. One is the traditional limit, with repeater signs.

The other is the 20 zone, which is signed at the entry points but has no repeaters. Instead, it must have traffic calming measures (humps etc.) at regular specified intervals.

NBLondon

AFAIK, There should be a pair of signs when you transition to the 20 from another (usually a 30). I would guess the painted on the roadway version is the repeater. Though I'm sure someone will be along soon to link to the proper regulations...

trailingspouse

I believe it's cheaper to paint on the roads than it is to provide repeaters. As a tax payer, council tax payer, and road fund licence payer, this pleases me.

What's entrapment got to do with it? You know it's a 20 limit - so you know what to do.

I have more of an issue with 30 limits - you can tell it's a 30 limit because there aren't any signs (apart from the initial ones). What sort of !!!!-eyed logic is that?

onomatopoeia99

trailingspouse wrote: »

I have more of an issue with 30 limits - you can tell it's a 30 limit because there aren't any signs (apart from the initial ones). What sort of !!!!-eyed logic is that?

Because when there are street lights in a built up area, the speed limit is 30 unless otherwise stated, so it doesn't need repeaters, just as the NSL doesn't need repeaters outside built up areas.

EdGasketTheSecond

Does anyone obey the 20mph? Don't seem to round here.

bouicca21

20 mph roads are my pet hate. No problem on residential roads but round my way several well used commuter route A roads have new 20 speed limits. Try and stick to it and you get tailgated, and impatient motorists will try dangerous under- or overtaking manoeuvres.

Btw the rules on repeater signs have changed, and personally I prefer the unmissable 20 signs painted on the road.

derrick

bouicca21 wrote: »

20 mph roads are my pet hate. No problem on residential roads but round my way several well used commuter route A roads have new 20 speed limits. Try and stick to it and you get tailgated, and impatient motorists will try dangerous under- or overtaking manoeuvres.

Btw the rules on repeater signs have changed, and personally I prefer the unmissable 20 signs painted on the road.

Not much good when it snows:)


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Crabman

trailingspouse wrote: »

I believe it's cheaper to paint on the roads than it is to provide repeaters. As a tax payer, council tax payer, and road fund licence payer, this pleases me.

This pleases you? Why? Do taxpayers receive a rebate on their tax bill if their local council paints on the road instead of putting up a sign?

glentoran99

derrick wrote: »

Not much good when it snows:)


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You'll be going slow enough anyway to be driving safely...

takman

Crabman wrote: »

This pleases you? Why? Do taxpayers receive a rebate on their tax bill if their local council paints on the road instead of putting up a sign?

Well some people who don't only care about things they financially benefit from like to see the council and governments spending their money efficiently so it can have the biggest benefits to everyone.