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Engine types

theoretica
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Where can I find reasonably in depth assessments of the pros and cons of different engines?

I am currently interested in a Ford B-max, petrol, and most of the reviews recommend the ecoboost engine. But looking at the cars available second hand, a fair proportion of people bought the conventional petrol engine. Presumably they had their reasons and I would like to know what they were likely to have been, in case they are good reasons for me too.
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  • Warwick_Hunt
    Warwick_Hunt Posts: 1,179 Forumite
    theoretica wrote: »
    Where can I find reasonably in depth assessments of the pros and cons of different engines?

    I am currently interested in a Ford B-max, petrol, and most of the reviews recommend the ecoboost engine. But looking at the cars available second hand, a fair proportion of people bought the conventional petrol engine. Presumably they had their reasons and I would like to know what they were likely to have been, in case they are good reasons for me too.

    Cost, when the ecoboost came out it was about four grand more.
  • Yeah same thing as above poster. The 1.4 was/is the entry level engine and cheaper.

    But one other possibility is that some people may choose a standard conventional petrol engine because it's simpler and therefore likely to be more reliable. Even if it can't match the (claimed) mpg and performance of the smaller turbo units.

    In reality the mpg figures that many have been reporting from the EcoBoost engines have been no more than the older ones.

    But I do suspect that the main reason will have been upfront cost.
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  • forgotmyname
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    More to go wrong and a bigger risk of future bills.

    Not checked reliability data for a while but the most reliable cars used to be the basic spec models. Less toys so less to go wrong.
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  • theoretica
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    Thank you all, that makes sense. Reliability is very tempting, but sadly hard to guarantee.
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  • Whatever you do, do not buy an ecoboost (especially 2012 to early 2015)

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/FordEcoboostNightmare/?ref=bookmarks

    They have major reliability issues
  • NBLondon
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    Whatever you do, do not buy an ecoboost (especially 2012 to early 2015)

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/FordEcoboostNightmare/?ref=bookmarks

    They have major reliability issues
    That's the EcoBoost 1.0 - which I would have guessed was likely to be OK in a Ka or Fiesta but perhaps struggling to haul around a Focus or a B-Max bodyshell. It may be equivalent on paper to a 1.4 or so but I'd suspect it's quite dependent on the type of driving you do... Are you doing lots of short trips lightly loaded (school runs) or hauling stuff on a longish commute?


    I have the 1.6 EcoBoost in my Focus and it's been fine. It definitely gets better MPG than the 1.8 DuraTec it replaced and I could probably do better if I didn't spend so much of my driving time in suburban traffic.
    I need to think of something new here...
  • NBLondon wrote: »
    That's the EcoBoost 1.0 -

    Yes it is but nothing to do with the power of the engine. There is an issue with the materials used in the de-gas hoses which causes them to lose coolant. Due to the fact that Ford didn't fit any warning lights for low coolant levels the cars continue without coolant which then causes massive engine failure resulting in a total failure necessitating a full engine change.

    The concept is great and I loved my Focus whilst I had it but couldn't live with the ticking time bomb.

    BTW they are now fitting the 1.0 ecoboost in the Mondeo.

    Additionally although my engine didn't fail Ford customer service is about the worst I have ever encountered and is borne out by the tails of woe I linked to above.
  • NBLondon
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    Yes it is but nothing to do with the power of the engine.
    No - it's to do with the 1.0 EcoBoost having the known problem and not the other members of the family - New 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.3 (in the Mustang) and 3.5 (US only).

    I've always found that the temperature gauge was sufficient to warn of a possible problem - never needed a specific "Low Coolant" light as well.

    OP see also - https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5612757
    I need to think of something new here...
  • n217970
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    NBLondon wrote: »
    I've always found that the temperature gauge was sufficient to warn of a possible problem - never needed a specific "Low Coolant" light as well.

    Would be useful if cars still had temperature gauges.

    On a side note I would be very wary of buying a 1.0 Mondeo, what is the resale value on a 100,000 mile example going to be?
  • David_Aston
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    I haven't looked at the JD Power Surveys recently, but if reliability is key, don't you have to get a Jazz?
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