Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread part 2½

Savvybuyer

"I'm autistic. Here's an APG womble, will you let me use it?" It was too difficult to pluck up the courage to say that. I just went in, handed them the voucher and receipt and hoped for the best. (Whilst I looked away from them, because it's uncomfortable to stand the way most people do, and probably making them feel I was suspicious:rotfl:, whilst hoping that my random ramblings about the voucher or something I was buying didn't upset anything.)

michaels

How does one do 2 x £10 petrol at once? Ta

No time for me to do it today so it will have to be tomorrow.... today now doh. Dd1 football at 9 and 2 degrees plus windchill on offer

Savvybuyer

Dizzy_Ditzy wrote: »

I think my S had the wrong signs up this morning - they had the "double up from today" sign up and no signs anywhere of swipe and win

I never usually bother with swipe and win cos you need to spend more than £10 and I struggle in that shop to spend that much :eek:

Regarding the signage - I wonder what type of person could have done that or failed to notice what signage they had up and, if incorrect, to take it down and correct it:D;).

On the second paragraph, now, how am I going to put this with tact and discretion?:think:

I have no idea:o - it's bound to come out wrong and won't be the way I intended it, so brace yourselves...

You struggle in that shop and I'm struggling to resist saying...

:eek:(Please don't take any of this the wrong way. I don't mean it badly. (Bet I've upset it by suggesting you would take anything wrongly when you would not.))

You don't need to spend more than £10, you only need £10 itself as that will do.

Send me to pedant's corner:o:o.

:A

Savvybuyer

Savvybuyer wrote: »

Regarding the signage - I wonder what type of person could have done that or failed to notice what signage they had up and, if incorrect, to take it down and correct it:D;).

On the second paragraph, now, how am I going to put this with tact and discretion?:think:

I have no idea:o - it's bound to come out wrong and won't be the way I intended it, so brace yourselves...

You struggle in that shop and I'm struggling to resist saying...

:eek:(Please don't take any of this the wrong way. I don't mean it badly. (Bet I've upset it by suggesting you would take anything wrongly when you would not.))

You don't need to spend more than £10, you only need £10 itself as that will do.

Send me to pedant's corner:o:o.

:A

Ah, I am struggling aren't I?
I don't know whether to add a smile after "that will do" - if I should, then I do, if it's wrong to do so, then I don't. I originally had a smile after "pedant's corner" and before the embarrassment symbols. However I have deleted that as I didn't want to suggest that I was happy whilst being a pedant and that I was somehow taking enjoyment in correcting you. Again, if I am wrong, on any level, please forgive me.:);) (I think that's okay.)

Anyone, as ever, please feel free to pick me up if I ever get a word wrong. I actually won't mind:doh::rotfl::rotfl:!:eek:
:beer::A:money:

D'you know the person that picks me up for getting something wrong more than anyone else? Myself:rotfl: - yes, that's right - me!:rotfl: (I'll also add now that I don't think that saying more than £10 when you [anyone, the global 'you'] meant £10 (or over) was anything wrong on any real level. It's not - it's just me, failing to keep my mouth shut when I should have done, and I know that and was struggling to resist the urge to put my foot into it in the way I always don't intend to do. I have failed to resist the urge and I prey your forgiveness.)

There's a person that correct me more than anyone. Sorry to focus on myself as I'm told that's also a mistake. I correct myself all the time - on pedantic issues whilst making social mistakes. No-one else ever dares to correct me, on the semantic issues, which I don't mind at all and have no issue or problem with, but, equally, I don't bite and I wouldn't mind if anyone did. No problem whatsoever - and, if anyone doesn't want to do so because it makes you uncomfortable, I don't require you to do so, it's fine:cool:! If you [global 'you', addressed to the entire world again] do, you just have to make sure that your correction is correct. Although I suppose if it's incorrect I don't know, I suppose I would just say it's wrong (and then probably unwittingly start an argument I didn't intend to start:rotfl::o). On the social mistakes, people either just turn away from me and they don't tell me what I did wrong (all body language is going off into space unfortunately) - I'm aware something had gone bad, from someone's reaction, but don't know what or why or - that's it - they usually, they just... it's usually something subtle like not being friends with me next time and I don't know whether I did anything that bad or not - sometimes I upset people and then I know - this doesn't happen very often at all but on the rare occasion it does I apologise and definitely don't do the same thing again.

Actually, I do resist most of the times, and manage to avoid responding to posts to say "hey, you missed out an apostrophe!:D:o:o"(:rotfl:), but it's difficult for me because I notice so much. I think possibly all attempts by myself to say people shouldn't be afraid to correct me (and I mean things more than apostrophes, as well as apostrophes themselves and any silly little things that, in the grand scheme of things, don't matter*) will not have people taking the plunge and doing so. I think this is an arcane issue, a boring topic (although no-one will say so, because people think it would be rude to call me boring, especially if it was true I bored anyone) and people, rightly, will prefer chatting on here and sharing the excellent money-saving tips like you do:cool:.

*Actually it does matter [NT perspective: what are you on about Savvy? - it really doesn't!] - because someone might not know they could put £10 in and get the Nectar points. However, it wouldn't be much difference or really hurt if they happened to put £10.01 in, so, again, yet again, I have gone for a tiny detail that is, substantively, irrelevant/unimportant in the gist of things/pedantic/technical. Can we both laugh at it at this point as it is a funny disorder, autism? (I mean of course - because I am now about to put my foot in it again unless I make the following clear - there are differences with different people on the spectrum and, if you or someone suffers (is that the right word? - some people who have Asperger's don't consider themselves to be "suffering" from anything as it's not a bad disorder, but depends on what form in which it presents in you) - anyway, I'll say suffers (on the risk of me being wrong) what might be called more severely with autism, then it's not a laughing matter. It can be funny, for me, in my case. But I'm not suggesting that it is funny for everyone or diminishing the real struggles that some other people may face or laughing at anyone that has those struggles.)

Savvybuyer

michaels wrote: »

How does one do 2 x £10 petrol at once? Ta

No time for me to downy today so it will have to be tomorrow.... today now doh. Dd1 football at 9 and 2 degrees plus windchill on offer

Well, you don't do it literally "at once" - you can't fill up with £10 petrol whilst also, at the same time, filling up with another separate £10 petrol. However, you can fill with £10 petrol, go and pay at the kiosk also having your Nectar card, and then come out and fill with another £10 petrol (assuming you have enough space in your tank) and go and pay etc. for that - so two £10s in one visit and therefore "at once" in that sense.

Again, even here, I am mechanically focusing on words - the words "at" and "once":rotfl:. It's just an interesting world (and I mean "world" and not "word" - there's no typo.) if you are me.


EDIT: And I've now noticed I have just answered the question at the start, that was seeking information and ignored the part about DD1 social activities:rotfl::rotfl:. It's just that I have nothing to say on those matters, although they are the very parts that people will pick up on in order to start a chat. About which I have no issue and there is nothing wrong with doing that. I'm not anti-social at all - always wrong impression comes across from me. I thought for a very long time that I was just like everyone else. It did not occur to me just how differently apparently I see things compared to 'everyone else' (or nearly everyone else). I've also thought (I think about a lot of things) about how every "conversation" I've ever had has been a conversation about seeking information rather than actually a conversation. Even at a pub, where I happen to go (this is more chance than anything) with a family member also on the spectrum, I've noticed that everyone else at every table is chatting among themselves - which I do actually like to listen to and hear, as I hear everything (an eavesdropping snitch I know:rotfl: - not really, I just hear everything around me) but never get involved in (don't know any moment to intervene - can't do so whilst they (strangers) still chatting to each other etc.) - the other tables are chatting (not literally the tables, the people at them:rotfl:, but you knew that) and me and the other autistic person, we sit down and much of the visit is us sitting in silence, as neither of us has anything at that point to say. When we do speak, it's to ask what each one wants for the meal, to say thank you to the waiter or waitress on delivering our meal or me to ask the other person if they have finished. Again - each point, seeking useful information (or saying thank you to acknowledge that someone has delivered a meal but not getting into any conversation). We actually had a rare situation last time - a waitress wanted to seek information as to whether a couple of people at one of the tables around us had left. They actually asked, sort of addressed to both me and people at another table. Then, on that seeking of information, and also the fact it seemed I was been addressed as part of her asking out loud, I actually responded to answer her question. As did someone else separately at the other table. We then discussed whether we knew or not - again, passing/seeking useful information. And that was all the "conversation" between me and the stranger. It didn't progress into any more conversation between myself and the stranger, who then went back to chatting with the rest of his table, whilst I just ate my meal with the other person (autistic) at mine and virtually nothing, unless we wanted to pass each other forks, salt and pepper etc. or wanted to know if either of us wanted to stay for a dessert. At all other times than the seeking of information, we just, it seems, don't know what to say:rotfl:/have nothing to say as no topic of discussion to talk about or anything. The only time was I did discuss my special interest with my relative the other time. Otherwise, neither of us, I notice we mostly don't say anything whilst at our table, neither of us has anything to say:rotfl:. I'll probably talk to them about how I have nothing that I know to say about next time and that will be the 'conversation' between us - but, again, seeking of information, talking about why we don't have anything to say, a topic of special interest, rather than actually having something to say and having a conversation. We just - only speak when it is relevant and when there is information to be given that is of use (or courtesies), we don't actually ever engage in any chat that is probably pleasantries/gossip/courtesies in an extension beyond thank you - and that, in effect, none of it has any real value other than the absolutely vital social value that it serves for most people (so does have real value) - just, the real value for our brain, seems to be seeking of information that enables us to do the tasks that we are there for (such as getting and eating the meal).

Even this post is a "conversation" about not having a conversation:rotfl::rotfl:. It's not "chatting", once again - at least, not in your (i.e. most people's) sense. That's all my input on every conversation, including that when non-autistic people are involved. And, if there's 'gossip', as in "do you know her?" I might answer "yes" (if I manage to get a word in edgeways). I then won't have any topic to keep the conversation going and everyone else will be chatting among themselves. Eventually, if they stop and notice I am there, they might ask if I'm okay or if I want a drink, and then I'll say yes, or no:eek:, depending on what I actually do feel or want. I might then start talking about some issue from the point of view of knowledge on it and of course that's not relevant so off they go into chat. I have nothing I can think to say that actually is relevant to that. I just don't know. No idea what I need to do. I try to be sociable and speak with people but, when I think about it now again, all the points of conversation are where I was giving information or they were doing likewise. I don't actually go to the pub to meet new people or ever manage to join any conversation and chat with them. I never make friends with people who were strangers and it just never happens. I prefer to stay here most of the time and to be uninterruped on my collection of information.
Bizarre - I never analysed myself in this way before, but yes it is strange what I do. Although, to me, it's not really because it's something I enjoy - like was said before, I have the concentration that other people would kill for (not literally:rotfl::rotfl:) - and I've always to some extent been this way. Whether it was from no success in social conversation putting me into doing something else - or whether I was always, to some extent, doing so before then and not really knowing what to say in a conversation anyway - unless it was, at the age of five, telling them all the various plant species in the local botanic garden and the precise location and varieties of each(:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:). No I just basically got reading a book of plant species, somehow the names of all of them stuck in my mind and I then knew them all and, looking back at me, then that was what happened. I couldn't tell you anything about plant species now - I couldn't - long-ago specialist interest has gone. Although that doesn't mean I couldn't go back into it - probably more likely to do so now I've mentioned it:rotfl:. Although at the moment I am sticking with autism and, I'm actually picking up more on the "chat" word in this thread's title and "chatting", of sorts, about my life and telling you my experiences, through autism at every moment, of the last few days. Hope it's interesting(:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:) and some of this, because of my specialist interest in money-saving, will have some elements of money-saving appearing at some point we hope no doubt. Actually I have mentioned, if not money-saving, some elements of consumer rights earlier (a long-time specialist interest of mine, which did get abandoned for many years but just about getting back into in some respects) and, as a 'fighting your corner for the consumer' website, I hope that is useful on MSE.

As it seems, I am certainly not bored, there is no void to fill, as I have plenty of busying myself in doing things, even if some of it is coming and posting all this on here. I am never bored - I'm always doing something, so np need for anyone to worry about the lack of any M list in my life:rotfl:. Although in fact I have had greater success in that, when I was doing that, than in any of my attempts to join a pub conversation in RL:rotfl::rotfl:. And I mean not just sitting there asking a question or unknowingly (believe it or not!) boring people because I'm talking about some topic of study rather than what they call 'chit-chat' or so-called small talk that is actually large and big and of mega-value in most people's lives. I see nothing with talking with people. It's just that - when I look at it - I'm never chit-chatting and don't have any topics in that or anything to say on those things(:rotfl:). I still haven't done any chatting of the social kind the vast majority of people do on here. This is a post about my analysis of my success or more so lack of it in the social sphere.

I've got things to look at in other posts, which won't be actual chitchat by me once more, but they'll be analyses of various things and hopefully there may be some interest in them at the same time as the chit-chat around from others as well (I don't want to dismiss it as 'chit-chat' - does that make it sound unimportant?) - anyway, thanks to everyone else and to me, there is both on this thread so, in a way, best of both worlds. Whilst we regroup probably to find some money-saving soon now that our attention's don't involve price comparisons that aren't available anymore. So my relative in my life that critiques me for going on about "price comparisons" and nothing else - is actually wrong. As they usually are about most things, although I don't tell them:rotfl:. I'm actually managing to get a lot of other things sorted out as well, what turn out to be ten minute jobs, that weren't got to whilst I was doing the M list. I will admit that - way too honest again - that things weren't totally what they should have been - but lots of things in RL were being done and day-to-day was being always kept on top of - indeed I often had to leave from here, delay the M list again as that could wait, in order to get them done - but there were things that have lain about that needed to be sorted and that's the other side of Asperger's as well. Actually, I have mentioned a lot of downsides - or might seem to be - such as social 'inabilities' etc. but there's lots of "special abilities" that I have referred to or mentioned too - such as - I don't want to brag - you know, noticing most of the environment around me which most other people don't seem to (and that's also my noticing the environment, namely noticing that they seem not to notice, whilst I bet they don't notice that I'm noticing:rotfl:). Alright, see you soon:wave:.

(There's actually yet more I could say about that - so, obviously, I'm going to do so, can't resist. That is - eye contact. People notice if you stare at them, and they don't like it. So I avoid doing that - though I am noticing what they are doing, I sort of give glances that don't directly look at them so that they would then wrongly feel I was staring. So I'm aware not to stare and I doubt they notice I am observing them at all. I'm doing that, not because I want to observe people but because I've this interest right at the moment in how other people are behaving and why, trying to understand how people see things and what I need to do in order to avoid from arising or solve problems. Following diagnosis several years back, I will say that I do see things differently from how I used to now that I am aware there are things I am missing - I'm now looking for things, wondering if I am missing them - so is different, and actually, for me, interesting from a point of view of studying and watching them now - life is somewhat like watching a film with which I can't interact. It's not upsetting, at least not at the moment - in fact I don't thnk I get upset at my failures anymore about things I now know I can't change, instead I now spot failures in others not interacting with me which are failures most people have that they are unaware of, when viewed from how I view things. It's not necessarily something people generally can change, without a lot of effort on their [in other words, for most people, your] part, whilst at the same time, I am told, from why I have social failures, that they [most of you, if you've managed to get this far:rotfl: - thanks for your enormous patience that I am doubtless testing - you'll deny it to my face that I am testing btw, if I actually am doing that;)] see those as failures on my part (and I used to too, in a different way before) that are not really something I can change without a lot of effort, as I can't change why I behave the way I do because I do what I would have done in a situation, without knowing I should apparently be doing something else, and I have already felt, as I mentioned before, that I have felt a lot of effort to achieve the same as other people do sometimes so I may already have always been having to make the extra effort. I just learn as I go along, or keep making the same social mistakes, in a different unknowable context that I had never encountered before, and if I learn, it still doesn't seem to work and the problem is how non-autism seems to make people behave. To me, it seems actually usually worse and explains why people generally seem to have a lot of problems that I don't have to experience.) Anyway, unbelievably, but how can I really be surprised?, I've now managed to write another huge paragraph of explanation, so I really will stop now, for the moment, and move onto my next post topic next time I am back.

Bye for now:wave:. Apologies for the long explanation/going on and on - just shut up Savvy:rotfl:!)

:wave::wave:

Savvybuyer

Think it's now my turn, having worked hard on my former lists all year, to pour my bleeding heart out to you, in a different way:D.

Thank you for listening (or not)!:):rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

:T
(I'm all diverse - I like non-listeners as well as listeners:D:cool:.)

michaels

It isn't the NP thread so no need to comment on any non-moneysaving chat, I probably only put it in as otherwise my constant asking for tips feels a bit like I take more than I give to this thread.

5AM, house has dropped to 17 degrees and the smoke alarm battery has started beeping I am the only one in the house who can't sleep through that type of sound - I guess that is a good thing?

pandoraskids

TrulyMadly wrote: »

Just looking at the Jack Munro cookbook.

Put 2 handfuls of pasta in a mug and fill with boiling water. Put a saucer on the top and leave for 10 minutes.

Then it's done

Really?

How much gas / electricity have I wasted over the years?

I cook fish this way, in a jug - never thought about doing it with pasta

TrulyMadly wrote: »

There were very few people putting only £10 in their cars all the time I was on the forecourt.

You would have thought by now that they'd have sussed it out

My sister would not be putting in £10 at a time. She was also very happy with her free pack of crisps with the T voucher. I have given up with her on this subject :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

tweets

Good Morning :hello:

elainemn

Good morning & happy Saturday