Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread part 2½

Savvybuyer

TrulyMadly wrote: »

There's someone who works in our upstairs office who I don't see very often but I say morning to now and then when I see him. He, and I, have been working in the same building for years

I went into work this morning without my pass and was waiting to be "pinged" in by reception.
This man happened to walk up to the door and open it with his pass before reception could let me in.

I was walking in behind him as I assumed he knew me when he declared that he couldn't let me in as he'd never seen me before.

Security:eek: No tailgating policy:eek:

Honestly:rotfl:

Really? Well I've just talked about my tailgatng incident on the roads, when I was tailgated, and it clearly doesn't apply.
Except when they say it does.

I'd be quibbling though - and I'd annoy them. It says "tailgating policy" (my emphasis). Is it tailgating policy though or tailgating law? If it is merely tailgating policy - in other words company policy, that is not the law and does not apply. I have no truck with company policies - I am not obliged to comply with any that do not form part of the law, certainly not with company policies that sometimes break the law, and not with anything that does not form part of a binding contract with me - and even then only to the extent that it is enforcement and not an unfair contract term. Policies should therefore in my view be ignored as they are not the law and the ones I like are those where I can use the law, a higher authority that overrides everything they say, to declare them void. Otherwise they will be way more careful next time and use the word law instead of policy if that is what they really mean.

I think they mean their premises. They are entitled to do what they want with their premises and can impose whatever rules they wish (as long as they don't discriminate against people for example). However, my general point about company policies remains - company policies are not the law. I have this issue when I am well away from company premises and businesses try to defend something on the basis that it's their "policy". Well, I don't agree. It's not my policy and it is not the law so does not apply. The law requires you to do this, so do it. What I ought to do is send them my terms and conditions - here are my policies, now sign up to them and agree to them with me!:p

Number (1) All company polices and anything claiming to be such hereby do not apply and are disclaimed and excluded in their entirety.

Of course, it does benefit us as well though, when companies offer us goodwill policies that they do not legally have to and then I'll do what the rest of the world normally does and switch at will and decide to go along with them on those occasions:cool:.

Hopefully though, if there is a company policy that, instead of giving us extra things that they didn't have to do by law, on the contrary breaks the law, it will be me that helps get rid of it and then ensures that that benefits everyone else.

TrulyMadly

Dodge the whoopsie game:rotfl::rotfl:

sarahskint

I got a few of the ps4 gift cards, boys and their friends xmas pressies sorted!! One of them gave me a 5000 pointer almost started flossing at the checkout lol

TrulyMadly

sarahskint wrote: »

I got a few of the ps4 gift cards, boys and their friends xmas pressies sorted!! One of them gave me a 5000 pointer almost started flossing at the checkout lol

:rotfl::rotfl:

HILLBERN

curlgirl wrote: »

My results from Swipe and win
1x2000 2x1000 3x 500 3x 200

we got 4 £10 lots of fuel plus needed some wine for curling prizes

food shopping mostly got things that were on special offer, yogurts,Vimto Aunt Bessie chips,Pataks curry sauce, special k, some magazines and a few own brand things in 4 x£10 shops. Wish I had known about the gift cards.

Lady in front of me spent £81 :eek:don't think she even had a nectar card

The lady in front of me spent £191 cash, used her nectar card then screwed up her receipt and 1000 points and put them in her bag:eek::eek:
no doubt they' ll never see the light of day again!

HILLBERN

pacifica9 wrote: »

Good evening Elite.

Hoping everyone is warm, happy and well. Hugs to those not so.

School Halloween party just finished. 30 kids hyped up on chocolate, cakes and sweets for two hours. :eek: I'm shattered! And perhaps slightly deaf. :rotfl:

I think I will stick with virtual children.

oh dear.....i'll put the kettle on what would you like?

Savvybuyer

TrulyMadly wrote: »

There were very few people putting only £10 in their cars all the time I was on the forecourt.

You would have thought by now that they'd have sussed it out

We're thankful they are not. If everyone did, the store would have got rid of it by now.

It's simply either (or a combination of)
lack of knowledge (not all people are aware the promotion is on - most people don't pay attention)
lack of time/convenience - it's easier for them to fill up all in one go and forego any extra Nectar points, which they may not see as worthwhile.
Or something else like - people might be stupid, I don't know:rotfl:.

Imagine everyone just putting £10 a time in their cars though. It wouldn't work. The queues from the extra delay to everyone would be so great it would be abolished. They rely on most people not to buy this way - and they know that that is likely to be how people generally will be. Putting only £10 though is certainly the best thing to do - not only for the point of separate Nectar points each time but also if you spend more, they will then want you to spend even more to qualify for offers they might send. If you spend more, you are clearly a captive customer and a store doesn't need to do anything to keep your (misguided) loyalty. You need to spend less, in order for them to want to try to offer you a little bit more to try to keep you. It's consumer psychology at work - they know most people are just sheep that stay there and pay more - we need to do the complete opposite to most people and that's the way really to save money. That's because their aim is to make profit and they only do that by operating according to how most people behave. I think profit for them is the total opposite of saving money for us.

Tinyshoes

Savvybuyer wrote: »

We're thankful they are not. If everyone did, the store would have got rid of it by now.


It's simply either (or a combination of)
lack of knowledge (not all people are aware the promotion is on - most people don't pay attention)
lack of time/convenience - it's easier for them to fill up all in one go and forego any extra Nectar points, which they may not see as worthwhile.
Or something else like - people might be stupid, I don't know:rotfl:.

Or maybe embarrassment savvy. It's the first time I have managed to persuade DD to split a shop. But she really doesn't want anyone laughing at her by only putting in £10 petrol each go. :eek:

Savvybuyer

fernie1 wrote: »

Pleased with my sainsburys points today
1 X 5000
3 X 500
1 X 200

Pleased with what I got, think I might get another £20 of petrol in my car.

Careful - that's the whole point of the promotion, to get you to spend more. As I see it though, they are in effect offering petrol for cheaper than anywhere else this weekend if you spend the points. I hope that £20 is 2x £10.

Savvybuyer

Tinyshoes wrote: »

Or maybe embarrassment savvy. It's the first time I have managed to persuade DD to split a shop. But she really doesn't want anyone laughing at her by only putting in £10 petrol each go. :eek:

Yeah I didn't think of that one. But then I'd be the one putting £10 in, causing embarrassment to everyone else and not seeing any of it:rotfl:.

Even so, I have got to admit (too honest) that I don't like doing several £10s in a row. I don't know what I think might happen or whether I think the local cashier will see me numerous times in a row, report to head office that that is what someone has done and then see the whole promo. pulled. I get a bit unduly nervous just being me anyway in a situation like this (no problem with normal buying at other times). Of course I don't know what to say if the cashier asked me something, I couldn't find the words to make them like me and let me get away with it, I just... don't know what to say or how! I just have no success in any of that. I tend to try a couple of times in a row, as if I forgot to put enough petrol in the first time and was just returning to fill up properly and then go to another store nearby and do the same thing. I may return to the other store later in the day when another cashier has come in. That's how I've done this thing in the past. It's defeating the point to travel somewhere to get petrol. But if I am in other place already anyway...

I wouldn't be bothered if anyone laughed at me for it. I just haven't got the courage to do four or five separate £10 fills in a row:eek:.

Imagine me going in: "I'm autistic. Can you make reasonable adjustments to act the same way as you would have acted if I'd successfully persuaded you to let me have several £10 fills in a row without any question?" It ain't going to happen! (Besides, I think what would happen... would be they would cut me off halfway through and not have the energy to listen or be interested in it all as me putting the question properly would be too long-winded. [Strike]Or, as usual, a non-autistic person would come in and the cashier's brain would be immediately distracted to turn away from me and onto the non-autistic person who came in.[/Strike])

EDIT: Tell you what (I'm not saying this in a snapping way, I've merely given up trying to perfect this post), I'm doing two versions. I've messed around with this post twice, changing it back and forth because I think the short 'clear' version is more ambiguous but my attempt for clarity is worse because it makes it too long-winded. So here are the two versions (both meanng the same) and you decide:

Version 1:
Or, as usual, a non-autistic person would come in and their brain would be immediately distracted to turn away from me and onto them.

Version 2: My long-winded version:
Or, as usual, a non-autistic person would come in and the cashier's brain would be immediately distracted to turn away from me and onto the non-autistic person who came in.

I didn't want to keep version 1 because for me there was too much ambiguity in it. Even though I supsect there's no doubt, or not much, and it is actually clear. I didn't like the ending of version 2 because I thought I'd now made that ambiguous because it wasn't clear where they were "coming in". I mean walking into the petrol forecourt shop.

I had the initial problem that "their" and "them" were two different people.