Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread part 2½

Anon · 25 October 2018 at 10:44PM

pacifica9 wrote: »

LNER 07:48 Saturday Haymarket to Edinburgh looks good when I can get connected.

Tomorrow 10.52 Waverley to Haymarket - £1.20 for Little Anon on V1rgin

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HTH

Anon

Savvybuyer · 25 October 2018 at 11:02PM

matty17r wrote: »

Hi Tinyshoes - I thought I got lucky finding some yellow stickered oatsosimple in Tesco I paid 75p for 20 but according to the dailymail it is linked to cancer/weedkiller. check out today dailymail and have a read and see what you think. I might take mine back even though I have not got receipt as I am a bit concerned about eating it. I do know that papers like to scaremonger though.

By the way trulymadly and freewheeling you got ripped off on your tortillas I paid 5p. Cant believe I got something cheaper than TM!

Whoever believes all of what is in the Daily Mail anyway? If we are to believe some figures regarding lying by non-autistic people in general, it seems that up to 80% of the paper might be untrue. I'd then have to take the number of people in total that write for the paper (subject to anyone that edits what they've written) and discount by a small proportion of mainly or almost exclusively truth-tellers of whom about 15% might be in work, compared to a much larger proportion of other people who have jobs across the whole of society - so that it might lower the 80% figure but not by very much. There might also be other articles found somewhere in the Daily Mail across time that say something different from today's article.

Lots of things have been suggested to have links to some disease or another. I went out tonight and decided I could no longer have -

(a) anything with beef or steak, because of the BSE found in that cow in Aberdeenshire the other week plus the one of about 13 years ago that I didn't even know anything about before;

(b) nothing with pork as that's linked to cancer;

(c) I can't even have chicken anymore as that's supposed to be the worst meat for contamination and anyway chicken never fills me up as I am always picking out little bits of imperfections.

In the end, I ended up with some fish, probably full of plastic. The recall of a particular frozen fish ready meal, after someone found a piece of plastic in it, a story from a few years back - I would have linked to but can't re-find the right story - caused me some bemusement earlier this year. I thought "Why do that? Hasn't everything that contains fish got plastic in it, even if only the tiniest numerous pieces of plastic less than one millimetre across each?" The supermarket recalled it because it may have plastic in it. However, I think it's possible literally everything with fish in it that is available anywhere probably has plastic in it, as well as many of the bottles of water. Therefore in my view every single food and drink/food or drink item should be recalled and shouldn't be any fish products available at all anywhere and as all of them probably have plastic in them*. And much tap water, it seems, has tiny plastic bits in it as well, so you can't avoid it: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/06/plastic-fibres-found-tap-water-around-world-study-reveals

The pieces are too small, so pass through the filters and treatment processes. It's suggested that plastic in bottled water may be caused when you open the top. However, the bottles themselves are plastic so don't tiny residues leak in and, if you get the bottles home after the tiniest bit of contact between the water and the underside of the top - how it is possible to have them scanned at tills, without the till operator turning the bottles on their side, even if only for a few seconds, in order to scan them, couldn't some plastic pieces go into the water? Everything is contaminated and, even if you wash items to try to clean them (and presumably fill them with tiny plastic bits that you can't even see, from the water being used to wash them) - you shouldn't do that with raw chicken as it just makes bacteria go everywhere - even after cleaning or washing something, bacteria still starts regrowing on things within a very short time. We are all bacteria and parasites anyway - only about 10% of us is outselves.

*I think I have missed the context, which was that the large piece of plastic the consumer found could have caused them injury. However, the fish ready meal was still recalled because it might have plastic in it. Every piece of fish might have plastic in it in my view, so I wondered why every other fish item in the shops hasn't been recalled. As it seems to me it might be imposisble to remove every piece of plastic that a fish might contain, if it has tiny micro-plastic in it - micro-plastic is still plastic - no such item could ever return to any shops at all. Scientists haven't found plastic in every fish. But I suspect, if they were to look, they would find it.

Savvybuyer · 25 October 2018 at 11:39PM

pacifica9 wrote: »

My child is on the 6:10 tomorrow from Birmingham New Street to Birmingham Inter with V West Coast.

Struggling to connect to LNER site.

Right, I'll go and meet your virtual child on the train tomorrow then:D:rotfl:.

Savvybuyer · 25 October 2018 at 11:44PM

TrulyMadly wrote: »

My jumble sale bargain today in T:)

There was loads of 7 up and lucozade too but I wasn't interested:o:)

Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, 7 Up and Lucozade are all off the menu for potentially containing microplastic. Crisps have got acrylamide in them (a potential cancer risk) and I'm sure there are some real nasties in ice cream as well.

Savvybuyer · 26 October 2018 at 12:24AM

As I've started off about this then earlier (and this still isn't any of the posts I was thinking about earlier in my queue - those are still queueing up...), this doesn't look/sound right to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plPNhooUUuc

It's like showing a 'how does the world look to a person with certain type of colour-blindness' to a person that has that colour-blindness.

If you're non-autistic, please watch it first without reading below as below may be a potential spoiler if you read it first.

It starts off by what it says is how a neurotypical sees the world (I prefer 'non-autistic' because so-called neurotypical people may have some disability other than autism that, therefore, doesn't make them 'typical'). I can still hear all the 'noise' from the cars passing down the street and the footsteps (did you notice those before I drew your attention to them? - which is now a potential spoiler), which I doubt whether a neurotypical hears either of them. (I put 'noise' in quotes since, whilst I can hear it, just like I normally hear it - I can hear it, very clearly, just as I usually do - maybe my attention more on it when I am watching a video about autism - but it's not overwhelming or upsetting so it isn't intrusive "noise" - it's just sound, all the usual type of sound, perfectly fine and I've no problem at all with it - it sounds to me the neurotypical person hears/see is just what an autistic person hears/see from my hearing and seeing the video as an autistic person - the neurotypical perspective seems no different from how I normally hear/see it as autistic, yet I understand neurotypicals hear and see things very differently. I will unpause the video and wait to see how it supposedly sounds/looks to an autistic person, from my view of the video of autistic experience experienced through autism, therefore a double filter that I suspect won't be as it is with just autism. So, for me, as an autistic person, neurotypical sounds/looks like normal autism (or my autism anyway - I can't go from that into neurotypical, something I never experience and never have experienced - assuming my diagnosis of autistic spectrum disorder is correct and it undoubtedly appears to be to me) and autistic person's perspective in the video won't be autistic experience, it'll be autism part of the video shown to neurotypicals but not heard/seen as a neurotypical but as autistic itself, so not autistic anymore (it definitely won't be neurotypical either) - I have no idea how the autistic part sounds/looks to neurotypicals (and I suspect different neurotypicals will hear and see it differently - colour, for one thing, is a personal experience and some neurotypicals will have various hearing perception that changes as you get older) and I don't know whether what is being shown, when neurotypicals hear and see it, as autistic is actually what I experience as an autistic person.)

Savvybuyer · 26 October 2018 at 12:38AM

:rotfl::rotfl: Autism experience - no, no, no, that's way too much compared to what I actually hear. It is - it sounds like autism plus autism, so has intensified the intensified, rather than being the mere intensified I always hear. The first one, the supposed neurotypical*, was me. But I was hearing that as an autistic person, so I didn't get the neurotypical. I did notice, and focus on, the missing apostrophe though, before the video that it says is autistic came on, that possibly is autistic to a neurotypical and maybe that is how I hear it - but only if you are neurotypical - and of course my focus of attention on that lack of apostrophe in the sentence. Obviously the video put together by a neurotypical - they can never get anything correct:rotfl:. (I don't mean literally anything - I mean the apostrophe, that would never be missing if I had put the video together. Somehow most people, it seems, miss the blindingly obvious - you probably never noticed the apostrophe lacking until I pointed it out to you, unless you are autistic. I just can't understand how the lack of an apostrophe could be missed - it's just not possible to miss the fact it has been missed, from my point of view - as if - which is probably correct - my brain just immediately focuses on that area of the screen, where the apostrophe ought to have been, and then remains fixed on it - just stand-out, impossible not to notice. Unless you are neurotypical I think. Sorry, it seems like I'm going on about an apostrophe:o:rotfl: - I'm not, I'm just discussing what stood out from the video for me. I have no problem with the missing apostrophe - no distress caused, the world is to rights - I just... notice it that's all:cool:! And these days I wouldn't normally have pointed it out - certainly not if someone gave me something similar in text as I know people generally don't like to be corrected - even if you still are bloomin' wrong! - but I still always notice it.)

*which probably is neurotypical to neurotypicals, but I can't tell whether or not it is, because I am autistic so can't perceive neurotypical [a neurotypical may be able to 'confirm' to me that it is neurotypical, assuming I ever believe anything you tell me as nearly 80% of what you say via spoken or written words is lies - sorry, I am out of sorts and off message again as I shouldn't speak truth as that hurts but you know I don't really mean it with any intention that way].

Further info. - I know if you don't return to where the * intervened in the start text soon you will go mad - so please return to the very start of this post, ignore the link to the footnote you've already read, read the entire first paragraph if you can and then come back to this: I used to be very naive in my childhood and believe that everything anyone said was truth I learned through long experience (of being let down and disappointed) that that was not the case - now, and especially with the research pointing to 80% - I trust almost nothing and require substantiated evidence to show everything claimed by anyone is true and, even then, won't accept it if the material then claimed to substantiate it comes from human beings:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:. By the way I do know "naive" isn't with an "i" but instead should have two dots over the lower part but my keyboard didn't have the right letter with the accent - so that is why. It's not a mistake and I am aware of it. No-one else is allowed to object as I'm the nitpicker not you:D. ('Nitpicking' myself that wasn't a mistake but simply circumstances of what I had on my keyboard made me use the letter I did - and I haven't gone to the extent of trying to find a way of putting the correct symbol there instead - but I mention the matter to prevent anyone else from doing so and saying "you claim to be correct, but you haven't noticed this" - I certainly have noticed it and there you are!:rotfl::doh: Apologies to any autists who stumbled over the "naive". And apologies to any neurotypicals if I bothered you by the truth:rotfl:. I do mean the apology - that is the one to NTs - I'm just laughing as that's caused by amusing Asperger's again, and, now that I have created doubt for the autists, I also mean the other apology, the one that was (and still is!) to you, as well.)

EDIT: I now like this, from the above: "read, read". Red. Reed. Of course, out of context, it could be either at either of two words. But, with all the original words around them in the "Further info." paragraph above, it was totally clear (I hope!). EDIT further: now, with "either" and "either" (the word appears twice in that first edit just now), I've got people reading eye-ver, and others reading eee-ver(:rotfl::rotfl:). What do you read when, before, I've often written "mbuy"? Is it em-buy or multibuy? I write "SEL" and I'm actually saying "sell", but some or many people say "ess-ee-ell". Now you thought you were hearing me correctly when you read [red] my posts in the past - had I been speaking in front of you face-to-face, you'd have heard me differently if you were reading me as ess-ee-ell or multibuy - one recent occasion of "an mbuy", which you've probably forgotten, may have made it clear. Face-to-face you'd have heard me saying it the way I was thinking it as I wrote it. Though I'd have probably been fumbling around and unable to find the right words at all in that (face-to-face) situation:rotfl:. Or "your face to the side of my ears" situation:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:.

Savvybuyer · 26 October 2018 at 1:35AM

Goodbye, I'd better go!:wave:

Whoopy-doo:j - I've noticed I've got post 52000, even though I was not trying to get anything. Post 52000* - don't know what that means.

*until anyone deletes anything

Savvybuyer · 26 October 2018 at 1:39AM

Why did I not notice "a autistic..." in the video earlier? Should be "an autistic..." I have noticed it now. So, even then, it never escapes from my scrutiny (eventually). EDIT: Actually - watching further into the video, the video is by someone that tells me (via non-express means) that they are autistic. So it's not only neurotypicals that can miss out punctuation and the 'correct' wording. I think what this says is that different autistic people can be very different from each other. For me, seeing no apostrophe may be exaggerated - for them, sensory distractions may be more what they have. I think we have bits of everything that forms up autism but each autistic person has different degrees of each. (Another Savvy theory at this stage (I've not yet formed a firm view without going looking for, and eventually finding, more evidence:rotfl: - [chuckles] I am strange:laugh:).) Anyway, night-night:wave:.

Just another edit:rotfl: - yes everything's foreground there isn't really any background - but I don't hear everything jumbled on top of one another - instead it seems my brain handles all the vast range of sound, seems to like having lots of information all at once as it has space for all of it, instead I hear everything, all at reasonable level - unless someone really is shouting or whatever that then comes over just as that. I do seem to hear things though, even if they are quiet - I hear those things quietly (rather than missing them altogether as, it now seems to me, most people do). I'm not actually sensitive to noise - one of my relatives, who does not have autism, is, I think, really sensitive to noise and wakes up at the slightest sound - they had problems with noisy neighbours years ago - fortunately we now live away from such people - but I slept soundly all the way through when any slight noise from next door, for my relative, woke them up. Perhaps :idea: - who knows? - maybe the problem was people making noise next door - perhaps they hear human voices (anything from other non-autistic people) more, whereas I hear everything. I do miss stuff though as well - if I am concentrating on something, some other sounds I might not then hear, unless there are really like a shocking bang from somewhere that would stop nearly everyone in their tracks, but, ordinarily, if I'm not concentrating on something, I hear quite a lot. Then I also have things that I can't block out - I think the more you try to ignore something, the more you hear it instead (you can't do it that way - it's like the "do not think of Mickey Mouse" situation) - but mostly hearing stuff doesn't bother me. It's irritating pop songs that bother me - but because the specific song, for me, is irritating and, if that's out and about, I can't not hear it (I think things that irritate tend to infiltrate even more) - but, when pop music was fine (showing my age), if it's an old pop song that I like, then I've no problem with it at all. I still hear the song (and presumably can't not do) but that's fine because I like that song and it is nice. I've never been able to write college essays when I had the radio on - always had to write them in total silence. (In fact, I did get distracted once by someone playing a song, one that I actually like, outside when I was doing one of my exams at university. I think the result was it probably brought my mark down by a couple of marks or something, because it did distract me away and I slightly lost my thread of what I was writing and lost a small amount of time, but I still got an extremely good mark in the exam. I'm just... perfect:rotfl:, still do very well.) So, I've always needed silence to write essays at home and I was told that that was part of my autism when I was diagnosed decades later. I even couldn't even have the photocopier on in a room at work when I needed to concentrate on writing something. The easy solution - it was my room anyway - was switch the machine off, write the thing and then go back to the photocopying. So, wasn't really a problem as it was solved that way. I did actually, in my entire life(!), find one song I could have on and be able to write with it on - an instrumental. However, all other instrumental songs, same as all vocal songs I've yet heard, never been able to write with them on. Or read a newspaper - can't do that either with music on (at least not if a substantial song is played - I can manage reading if I have the TV on and a brief extract of a song comes on and that was all that was being played - they then go back to talking and I can then have that in the 'background' (even though I've said there wasn't one*) whilst reading - although I am sure, any heavy text (something that is more complex in most people's senses rather than a simple newspaper story) I would need TV off in order to concentrate on the high-level academic article.

Crikey:eek: - my edit now miles of text! I have said everything though now, I think:rotfl:. After all, you have now got the full picture and, had I missed any of the above out, you won't have got some of it and there would have been something missing.

:wave:

*actually said there isn't "really" one, so I have catered for this situation. There's isn't really - but, sometimes, there are things in the background sort of, like this situation of me having my TV on as background wallpaper to much I do (got it on now, in this way, whilst writing all of this). So I can work with TV on and write - and obviously depends what's on there - if I have a film on - at 'normal' level rather than volume on very quietly - and there's a scene with a sudden crashing sound or some "action" - obviously it diverts my attention onto it. And if an irritating song, one that is to me, comes on - I do have to switch it off, or mute the whole TV, if they play it for more than about a couple of seconds. But that's my 'irritating song' situation again - only seems to affect music made since 1998 - and not really sensitivity to sound per se. Just for clarity: I didn't say there wasn't any background and I haven't said there isn't any background. I have said there isn't really any background. And that single word - the word "really" - makes it completely different. Sorry - get you paying especial attention... and then you slip up and probably misunderstand me because it then probably has you focusing on something at another time that I didn't mean you to focus on.