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Ryanair new seating trick

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  • LABMAN wrote: »
    To think that Ryanair are not using seating reservation to increase revenue stream is naive in the extreme given their history.

    Well of course they are. They are perfectly open about this. it's not in doubt.

    The question is whether they deliberately seat people who don't pay apart and the answer is no, they don't go out of their way to do it, but they don't go out of their way to seat you together either. Obviously if you are asked to pay for something and don't, you are not likely to get it. There are a lot more seat combinations not together then there are together. Simple statistics show you will likely end up apart.

    People who don't pay for a sandwich don't get a sandwich, either. This isn't viewed as an evil attempt to victimise those who don't pay for sandwiches.
  • docmatt wrote: »
    We once got a taxi from Birmingham to Manchester and it was £160

    We got a Ryanair flight from Birmingham to Dublin and it was £69
    I don’t care if they seat the wife on the wing and me in the cockpit. It’s less than an hours flight and it’s value for money.

    I believe you can get a 15% reduction if you volunteer to fly the plane.
  • zagfles
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    docmatt wrote: »
    We once got a taxi from Birmingham to Manchester and it was £160

    We got a Ryanair flight from Birmingham to Dublin and it was £69
    I don’t care if they seat the wife on the wing and me in the cockpit. It’s less than an hours flight and it’s value for money.
    You're comparing private hire with public transport? Yes, public transport is nearly always cheaper, shock horror ;)
  • zagfles
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    takman wrote: »
    But that's not how business works, most products and services are priced based on how much they are worth to people and not what they cost to produce/supply. Pricing services higher due to demand doesn't mean they are a rip off.

    For example in Theaters you have to pay more to get seats that have a better view, is this also a "rip off" considering it doesn't cost them any more to provide those seats?
    Whoosh!!!!

    Yet again, the point is missed.

    The issue isn't that certain seats are more expensive than others. That's been the case for decades on loads of airlines.

    The point is that Ryanair are sitting people apart on the same booking, apparently deliberately.

    When you book the cheap seats in a theater, do they sit you at one end and your partner at the other end? No - even if you book the cheapest seats, they'll sit you together, except in the rare case that the only seats left in your category are apart.
  • takman
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    zagfles wrote: »
    Whoosh!!!!

    Yet again, the point is missed.

    The issue isn't that certain seats are more expensive than others. That's been the case for decades on loads of airlines.

    The point is that Ryanair are sitting people apart on the same booking, apparently deliberately.

    When you book the cheap seats in a theater, do they sit you at one end and your partner at the other end? No - even if you book the cheapest seats, they'll sit you together, except in the rare case that the only seats left in your category are apart.

    I like it how you conveniently neglected to quote the part of my post where i stated a good reason for them seating people apart:
    takman wrote: »
    It makes business sense for them to determine which seats are the ones people are most likely to pay for based on previous data and then automatically allocate the ones least likely to be bought to people who don't pay.

    Your the one who seems to be missing the point that Ryanair is a budget airline and seating people together is not part of the basic package. If they seat people in the seats that are least popular with people who pay first then they are very likely to not be together.

    When you go to the theater the price of the ticket includes being seated next to the other people in your party. But you seem to have missed that i was using that as example when replying to Nick_C specifically.
    The Theater is obviously different because being seated apart will make it less enjoyable which is the main purpose of a theater. The main purpose of a flight is transport which is still achieved no matter how the passengers are seated.
  • Gavin83
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    zagfles wrote: »
    The point is that Ryanair are sitting people apart on the same booking, apparently deliberately.

    I'm with those that doesn't believe Ryanair purposely sits people apart just to make them pay for an upgrade. To be honest by the time you realise you're being seated apart it's too late to upgrade anyway, what would be the value to them of doing this?

    People who pay more get priority. If you are seated apart it's due to this reason, not some secretive ploy to get more money out of you.

    For the record I've flown Ryanair a lot and I've never been seated apart from my travel companion.

    However as others have pointed out if you don't like the way it works fly with another airline. I'm still stunned people would rather have a compulsory fee than be given the choice though.
  • Gavin83 wrote: »
    However as others have pointed out if you don't like the way it works fly with another airline. I'm still stunned people would rather have a compulsory fee than be given the choice though.

    Yes, the logic of "I would rather pay £70 for a ticket and a choice of seat than £60 for a ticket and £10 for a choice of seat" escapes me as well.
  • zagfles
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    takman wrote: »
    I like it how you conveniently neglected to quote the part of my post where i stated a good reason for them seating people apart:
    That's not a "good reason". On my last flight I was sat next to someone who'd been auto allocated a seat, my wife had an empty seat next to her.
    Your the one who seems to be missing the point that Ryanair is a budget airline and seating people together is not part of the basic package. If they seat people in the seats that are least popular with people who pay first then they are very likely to not be together.

    When you go to the theater the price of the ticket includes being seated next to the other people in your party. But you seem to have missed that i was using that as example when replying to Nick_C specifically.
    The Theater is obviously different because being seated apart will make it less enjoyable which is the main purpose of a theater. The main purpose of a flight is transport which is still achieved no matter how the passengers are seated.
    So it's an irrelvant analogy then. The issue is being split up. Theatres don't do that.
  • zagfles
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    Gavin83 wrote: »
    I'm with those that doesn't believe Ryanair purposely sits people apart just to make them pay for an upgrade. To be honest by the time you realise you're being seated apart it's too late to upgrade anyway, what would be the value to them of doing this?
    No it isn't. You can change your seats after they've been auto-allocated. This could be cheaper than selecting seats at the start, since you only need to move one of them.
    People who pay more get priority. If you are seated apart it's due to this reason, not some secretive ploy to get more money out of you.
    Of course it's not secret. Even Ryanair admit it. Some people on here have difficulty accepting it though.
    For the record I've flown Ryanair a lot and I've never been seated apart from my travel companion.
    When was your last flight? I've been on loads of Ryanair flights and always sat together, untill my last one a few months ago.
    However as others have pointed out if you don't like the way it works fly with another airline. I'm still stunned people would rather have a compulsory fee than be given the choice though.
    Personally I don't mind the way it works, I can be apart from my wife/family for a couple of hours. The issue here is some people don't seem to believe this is a new, changed policy from Ryanair, and is different to the way they worked previously and to other budget airlines like Easyjet.
  • docmatt wrote: »
    We once got a taxi from Birmingham to Manchester and it was £160

    We got a Ryanair flight from Birmingham to Dublin and it was £69
    I don’t care if they seat the wife on the wing and me in the cockpit. It’s less than an hours flight and it’s value for money.


    Why didn't you get a National Express coach from Birmingham to Manchester?
    That would only have cost £4.60 upwards.
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