Smart Meters

Michaelw

The Institute of Directors recently renewed its calls for the smart meter programme to be put on hold, claiming that an urgent review is needed to re-assess the costs and benefits, particularly as the objectives of smart meters can be achieved more cheaply than via the current scheme.


“The programme has already failed to deliver interoperable meters for switching, is behind schedule, is over-budget and wedded to out of date technology. Not only that, the legal obligation on suppliers to install potentially incompatible meters by the deadline of December 2020 or else pay large fines is already pushing up inflationary costs in wages and advertising,”

http://watt-logic.com/2017/06/13/smart-meter-problems/

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Michaelw wrote: »

The Institute of Directors recently renewed its calls for the smart meter programme to be put on hold, claiming that an urgent review is needed to re-assess the costs and benefits, particularly as the objectives of smart meters can be achieved more cheaply than via the current scheme.


“The programme has already failed to deliver interoperable meters for switching, is behind schedule, is over-budget and wedded to out of date technology. Not only that, the legal obligation on suppliers to install potentially incompatible meters by the deadline of December 2020 or else pay large fines is already pushing up inflationary costs in wages and advertising,”

http://watt-logic.com/2017/06/13/smart-meter-problems/

The IoD has long been a vocal critic of the smart meter programme - and for good reason. The management of this £12Bn programme has been, and still is, a complete shambles. Interestingly, they fail to mention Germany which has now restricted its smart meter deployment programme to high electricity users only; that is, consumers who use more than 6000kWhs/year.

House_Martin

The I.o.D. make a realistic statement of pointing out about huge savings to be made on the smart meter roll out. I d like to help them because I reckon I could save billions too.
Not sure why they say that "the next government " should get these savings underway.Hopefully the current government under Mrs May have another few years to go yet to see us out of the E.U until 2022.
Why wait for the "next government " under Red Jeremy. Do it now ! get the savings underway. Get the big drastic changes underway next week.

Michaelw

Npower and Eon start SMETS2 smart meter pilots

Npower and Eon have kick-started the installation of second generation smart meters, with a view to undertaking wider rollouts next year.
Eon has installed around a million SMETS1 meters so far, and has completed some SMETS2 installs this month. However, the company is “still in testing phase”. “When we’ve ironed out the final details and complexities we’ll then start mass rollout,” a spokesperson said.


https://utilityweek.co.uk/npower-and-eon-start-smets2-smart-meter-pilots/


Theres been no reports of these SMETS2 meters being of a different model then whats been installed already and could simply be a firmware upgrade in the testing phase.What has become clear that until this has been finalised installing one of these meters at the present time the future looks uncertain.It might be that customers switch suppliers to have their old incompatible 2G equipment removed at some future point.

House_Martin

Nice to see British Gas ahead of the pack once again and installing SMETS2 compliant Landis and Gyr smart meters since last August. They were the first to install a SMETS 2 meter
As for Eon installing 1 million smart meters, I don`t believe it .Maybe they have "offered " to install them to a million customers by post !. Its very unlikely that Eon have got that many smarts in operation given their snails pace meter fitting teams .They may have offered them to be fitted, that is all what is needed to each OFGEMS 2020 target

badmemory

I'm still going to wait for SMETS3

Richmc

"............the bill total a stunning $284,460,000,000 dollars (£210 billion), but her minimum payment for the month of December was $28,156 (£21,076). She was given a full payment due date of November......."

Yes I know this was in America, but it shows how far you can trust smart meters.
I still won't be having one, as I still see them as a tool for power companies to charge more when we need the power most, rather than charging us less when we don't need it.

Does anyone posting on this thread really trust that the power industry and government are acting in the publics best interest? If so it going to be a first!

badmemory

Richmc wrote: »

Does anyone posting on this thread really trust that the power industry and government are acting in the publics best interest? If so it going to be a first!

I trust them a lot less than I would trust a supermarket & they too act like a cartel a lot of the time. The only interests they act in is their own & their shareholders, as far as they are concerned the rest of us are just the mugs who pay them for something we have no alternative but to use.

Richmc

House_Martin wrote: »

As for Eon installing 1 million smart meters, I don`t believe it

Neither do I with 26Million households in the UK (ONS) and Eons market share of 15% gives them 3.7Million households so roughly 25% of their customers have singed up, the average take up rate is under 20% for those offered them. So around 750000 at 25% take up.
Smart meter uptake: how many customers are taking up the offer?

I haven't got the space for one, the signal for one, or the need for one. I manage and monitor my usage and submit reading regularly.

jk0

roughly 25% of their customers have singed up

Crikey. They must be more dangerous than I thought.