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  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 8,837 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    Except, of course, an individual examiner has no idea what the national average will be...

    He will have an idea (it's published periodically) but it's irrelevant, because he's measured against the local average. These vary widely from the national figure. Again, they're published, but only historically and the current figure may be significantly different.
  • Car_54
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    Bedsit_Bob wrote: »
    It's also an urban myth, that 94.26% of statistics are made up. :D

    That's not a myth, Vic Reeves said it. He wouldn't have lied, would he?
  • I expected him to pull off any second

    Dirty devil. :D
  • Car_54 wrote: »
    That's not a myth, Vic Reeves said it. He wouldn't have lied, would he?

    That what I said.

    The urban myth is that those statistics are made up, hence they aren't made up. :D
  • The national average, first time pass rate, for 2016, was 47.5%.

    I don't know what the first time pass rate was, on the 2 occasions I passed first time.
  • Car_54
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    Bedsit_Bob wrote: »
    The national average, first time pass rate, for 2016, was 47.5%.

    I don't know what the first time pass rate was, on the 2 occasions I passed first time.

    Last time I looked, the pass rate was pretty much the same (46ish%) for 1st, 2nd 3rd, 4th and 5th attempts.

    They only published a single figure for 6th and later attempts, which was much lower - about 30% from memory.

    This makes sense. I'd expect the pass rate starts to fluctuate soon after attempt 5 as the numbers tested become much smaller and randomness has a greater effect. [At some stage there's only one guy left. The pass rate for each attempt is then either 0% or 100%]
  • gpc273
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    Car_54 wrote: »
    Their "target" system is simple, and is a matter of public record. It is not aimed at "improvement", but consistency.

    Each examiner's pass/fail ratio is monitored, to ensure it is not significantly higher or lower than his colleagues at the same test centre. If it is, then it is investigated and if necessary action taken.
    It is monitored using the Chi formula, a means of evaluation that is highly flawed for this purpose. Most organisations have dropped it less the DVSA..
  • NBLondon
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    It could be possible for a particular examiner to have worked out their own rate, found out what the local average was and (as said above) manipulate it a bit by the decision they make on a marginal candidate when they think they are about to be measured. But that's a lot of work and not necessarily happening at the end of a given month. And avoided by not being marginal... Which in terms of not wasting the cost of the test is the best advice anyway.
    I need to think of something new here...
  • I passed 3rd time, first 2 tests were on Fridays and the 3rd test which I passed was on a Monday.
  • LandyAndy
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    Car_54 wrote: »
    Last time I looked, the pass rate was pretty much the same (46ish%) for 1st, 2nd 3rd, 4th and 5th attempts.

    They only published a single figure for 6th and later attempts, which was much lower - about 30% from memory.

    This makes sense. I'd expect the pass rate starts to fluctuate soon after attempt 5 as the numbers tested become much smaller and randomness has a greater effect. [At some stage there's only one guy left. The pass rate for each attempt is then either 0% or 100%]


    woman surely? :cool:
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