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Letter from QDR solicitors - CEL PCN - NHS

Dutch85
Dutch85 Posts: 9 Forumite
edited 11 December 2017 at 10:00PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hi All


I parked in a drop off zone space (which are restricted to 30 min stays) at CMCH earlier this year, as my wife was in labour and subsequently rushed into theatres for an emergency section and hence I was unable to move the car before receiving a PCN issued on behalf of Civil Enforcement Ltd.


I'd wrongly (or so it appears from reading the threads on here) ignored the PCN and the subsequent letters from ZZPS Ltd and have now received a letter from QDR Solicitors advising that I have 14 days pay £206 in full otherwise their 'litigation department' may look to obtain a CCJ - whilst I understand from reading several posts on here that I'm best to ignore letters from debt collectors, would it be worth making any complaint at this point


Also not sure if this is relevant, but the car was an old lease car which has since been returned to the lease company.


Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 148,210 Forumite
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    now received a letter from QDR Solicitors advising that I have 14 days pay £206 in full otherwise their 'litigation department' may look to obtain a CCJ

    I would treat that as a badly-composed, misleading LBCCC, and adapt a version of the LBCCC reply suggested by Johnersh for a dreadful LBCCC sent by Wright Hassall Solicitors (obviously you will need to edit it to suit QDR instead).

    You can find Johnersh's post with his draft complaint letter, linked in the NEWBIES thread post #2 about LBCCCs, or by searching this board for the unusual keyword 'cathartic' and change the default to SHOW POSTS (not threads).
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Thanks Coupon-Mad, much appreciated - I've drafted a complaint letter using Johnersh's template and so hopefully this will put an end to it.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 148,210 Forumite
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    No, it won't.

    It will end when CEL send a claim form and you defend, and they'll discontinue in the end (almost certainly). The reply to LBCCC is not designed to put an end to it. You will 99% likely win in the end, but it's not over yet.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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  • Ah ok, understood. I will send the letter and await the claim form.


    Thanks again for your help!
  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 6,953 Forumite
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    Also bear in mind that QDR solicitors are also the debt collection arm of Wright Hassall and like all debt collectors they are economical with the truth.

    "QDR Solicitors advising that I have 14 days pay £206 in full otherwise their 'litigation department' may look to obtain a CCJ"

    That is just totally scaremongering and misleading, and the original charge cannot possibly be £206 this is just greedy debt collection fees added on, that could not be claimed if it went to court.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 23 October 2017 at 9:42AM
    so hopefully this will put an end to it.

    Very unlikely, WH are renowned for chasing lost causes. If you fight them you may cost them a lot of money, £200 is well OTT.

    Also, under new regulations, they have to jump through myriad hoops before they can take you to court.

    This is not painting by numbers, but giving a firm of solicitors trying to con you a good hiding is surely not to be sneezed at.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Thank you both - I'll be sending the LBCCC reply today. . . but it's reassuring to hear about the new regs The Deep refers to.


    Will post an update once I hear back.


    Thanks again all.
  • Ralph-y
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    have you tried complaining to PALS yet

    Ralph:cool:
  • beamerguy
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    "and have now received a letter from QDR Solicitors advising that I have 14 days pay £206 in full otherwise their 'litigation department' may look to obtain a CCJ "

    Such letters are menacing and scaremongering and if
    this goes to court, this should be brought to the attention
    of the judge.

    NO litigation dept can look to obtain a CCJ and this letter
    clearly shows their total lack of knowledge

    If you go to court, it's then 50/50 who will win and that
    depends on the judge and his/her understanding and of
    course your evidence.
    If you lost (doubtful), even a judge would not look to obtain
    a CCJ, it's not his job ... how and why does a litigation dept
    of solicitors think they are god and a judge ??

    If you lost, you would then receive a letter from the court
    with the courts decision and be given up to 28 days to pay.
    Only if you do not pay would you get a CCJ on your
    credit file
    A County Court Judgement is where a judge rules against you,
    and it is only rubber stamped if you do not pay within
    the time period

    Solicitors know that "CCJ" will scare you and to most people
    means a mark on your credit file.

    The words of this solicitor are misleading (not unusual when it
    comes to the great parking scam), they are highly unprofessional

    Such letters from those who fabricate in an attempt to extort
    money from anyone should be reported to Trading Standards
    and to your local MP for investigation
  • Thanks Ralph and beamerguy - I will forward my letter on to Trading Standards and also contact PALS for central Manchester hospitals


    As you say the words are very misleading as they list a number of 'possible impacts of having a CCJ registered against me', which as you rightly point out is just scaremongering
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