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ECU remapping

So lots and lots of places are promising increases BHP and fuel economy. Sounds too good to be true like some sort of tacky gimmick. I'd assume the stock ECU is designed to maximize longevity of the component and keep things within a certain tolerance? I can't imagine a manufacturer would purposely cripple their vehicles, reduce fuel economy and shut down power?

Any thoughts???
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  • Another pointless thread for your research project? Or are you going to contribute more than one post to this one?
  • Another pointless thread for your research project? Or are you going to contribute more than one post to this one?

    Exactly ;)

    The Username says a lot as well.
  • Johno100
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    This subject was done to death a few months ago.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5647874

    And yes in these days of cars produced for a world and not a local market a very conservative map is often used by manufacturers to allow for variations in fuel quality/servicing intervals/emission requirements etc. etc.
  • facade
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    treboeth wrote: »
    Exactly ;)

    The Username says a lot as well.

    Even I know what it means in English :D
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

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  • Johno100 wrote: »
    This subject was done to death a few months ago.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5647874

    And yes in these days of cars produced for a world and not a local market a very conservative map is often used by manufacturers to allow for variations in fuel quality/servicing intervals/emission requirements etc. etc.


    Clearly that is not true. Every car you see one the street, unless it's an import, will be configured to meet UK specific requirements - the most obvious parts of this being the steering wheel on the right hand side and the configuration of the lights.

    By comparison implementing a region specific ECU map is easy and I'm pretty sure manufacturers will tune their ECU maps to the local market.
  • bigadaj
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    Clearly that is not true. Every car you see one the street, unless it's an import, will be configured to meet UK specific requirements - the most obvious parts of this being the steering wheel on the right hand side and the configuration of the lights.

    By comparison implementing a region specific ECU map is easy and I'm pretty sure manufacturers will tune their ECU maps to the local market.

    The U.K. Isn't unique in driving in the left, around a third of countries across the globe do so, depending on whether you're looking at number of countries, size, population etc
  • bigadaj wrote: »
    The U.K. Isn't unique in driving in the left, around a third of countries across the globe do so, depending on whether you're looking at number of countries, size, population etc


    So you agree, there is no such thing as a global spec car?
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    So you agree, there is no such thing as a global spec car?

    No. The Ford Focus for example is a global car.
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  • Johno100
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    So you agree, there is no such thing as a global spec car?

    Yes, there is. If for example you'd have bought a Ford Focus in the US a few years ago you'd have got one of these

    640px-2009_ford_focus_SES_sedan.JPG

    Designed and built in the US and not even bearing a passing resemblance to the MK2 available in most of the rest of the World.

    Now everyone, be they in the US, Europe or China gets this.

    640px-2013_Ford_Focus_Zetec_Turbo_EcoBoost_1.0.jpg

    That is what I mean by a global spec.
  • thescouselander
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    edited 21 October 2017 at 5:07PM
    Tarambor wrote: »
    No. The Ford Focus for example is a global car.


    I think you'll find if you drive a focus in a different country (for example the US) the spec will be different. Different lights, different suspension tuning different in car electronics (or at least the software part). The engines might also be tuned differently to take account of local emissions regulations.

    Cars go through a significant amount of configuration changes in preparation for sale in different regions to meet the requirements of local type approval as well as the tastes of the local market. It's no big deal - manufacturers do this all the time so why would anyone expect them to stick with a one size fits all ECU map (which was the original point).
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