Managing Company stopped Lifts - Help - Advice Welcome

davidmcn

MonSaveHelp wrote: »

Was not looking to take legal action. Was just looking at sending something to the management company to halt beginning the works until we have some kind of consensus and help for all the people.

But you were suggesting the work was due to begin this week. It could potentially be rather expensive for them to call a halt to it, if they need to pay for the contractors to twiddle their thumbs while you all try to reach a consensus.

MonSaveHelp

parkrunner wrote: »

http://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/resources/patient-information/kidney/home-dialysis.pdf

We will provide the dialysis machine and most of the equipment.
You may need to provide small items such as a table. The dialysis
supplies will be delivered to your home every two to eight weeks
depending on how much storage space is available.

I don't know what it is - just there is a lot of it and its very heavy. Pics here if helps.

EDIT: <Removed Pics for now in case it breaches any ones confidentiality - can find a different way of communicating this if required>

MonSaveHelp

Nicki wrote: »

Why would disabled residents be living on the upper fooors of a privately owned block of flats (ie not social housing)? If there was a fire, they wouldn't be able to use the lift so I assume everyone living there is capable of using the stairs even if this would be more difficult for them.

people get settled and gradually more disabled with time. The management company are not pro-active with managing this - who knows if they really care about those on protected tenancies as they prevent an AST professional taking on the flat at higher rents.

Red-Squirrel_2

MonSaveHelp wrote: »

I don't know what it is - just there is a lot of it and its very heavy. Pics here if helps.

Looks like filter fluid, which would make sense, but I'm amazed somebody needing so much is being treated at home, that looks more like a hospital stock room.

If that really is their stuff though you probably shouldn't be taking pictures of your neighbours medical supplies, that's not very respectful of their privacy. It looks like there are pharmacy labels visible which is not on.

MonSaveHelp

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

Looks like filter fluid, which would make sense, but I'm amazed somebody needing so much is being treated at home, that looks more like a hospital stock room.

If that really is their stuff though you probably shouldn't be taking pictures of your neighbours medical supplies, that's not very respectful of their privacy. It looks like there are pharmacy labels visible which is not on.

Checked to ensure there are no individual identifiers on there. Just needed to something to show that am not making this up. If it helps people take the matter seriously it may have been worth it.

<Have removed the pics at this time to be safe - unless its okay to post back as does not have individual identifiers>

MonSaveHelp

davidmcn wrote: »

But you were suggesting the work was due to begin this week. It could potentially be rather expensive for them to call a halt to it, if they need to pay for the contractors to twiddle their thumbs while you all try to reach a consensus.

It may even make sense for them to begin - but we need some assurances about remediation for residents and also assurances about end dates. Nothing is known - as there is no transparency which is what we need.

MonSaveHelp

unforeseen wrote: »

The lift needs maintenance work. How do you propose it is done without removing its use from the building occupants?

Once the lift is taken out of commission for the work it just can't brought back on line for a few hours a day for the occupants.

Good example. Cable replacement. Takes a Day or more to remove old and similar to install new. While the cable is out it would make sense to do all the work needed on the lift motor while no cable in the way. Once that's done then the lift shaft can be maintained, followed by the lift cabin.

Then reassemble it all and carry out all the safety tests the company, H&S and statute decree must be done.

There you have it. A good few weeks work that, once started, takes the lift out of action for a couple of weeks.

Thanks. The lift is being proposed to be out of action for over 2 months. The block is 7 floors high, but does have elderly and other vulnerable residences.

MonSaveHelp

parkrunner wrote: »

I live in a block of flats which is partly sheltered accommodation. When our lift needed some major works which took around three weeks our HA put in a temporary stair lift, I have no idea of the cost though.

Exactly - I am unsure if the options/solutions have been even considered by this private large Landlord. If someone falls or gets hurt I want to have made sure I have done my best in getting some kind of representation for the residents.

Hence I welcome any content I can email the Landlord to get a re-think, some remediation for the tenants and also assurances about the work and its length (2 months for lift repairs feels like a long time considering other the other posts).

MonSaveHelp

In outline, what I have so far is an email requesting:

- Assurances about work necessity and transparency
- Justification why 2m is needed and assurance of end dates
- Have methods to expedite the work been considered & reviewed
- Either provision of some lift services during certain times
- Or alternatives solutions provided (stair lifts etc)
- Vulnerable residents identified and individual remediation plans
- Some dialogue/forum or communication on this issue

If this is not done there could be:
- Risk around Disability Law Compliance
- Social and care services/council intervention


Will review all the posts before drafting.

Anything else - or specific other details I should include??

Appreciate the help so far.

Comms69

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

I certainly hope you're right. Quite upset by some of the reactions on here to the mere suggestion that disabled people might have a right not to imprisoned in their flats.

Regardless of that, lifts are mechanical and therefore prone to problems - it's not discrimination to maintain a lift.


In fact the law requires them to do so, and the equality act is quite clear in that discrimination based upon the requirements of the law is NOT unlawful.