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gycraig_2

if a lift needs replacing it needs replacing im not sure what you Are expecting the landlord to do really ? Leave the lift till it just stops working potentially with someone in ?

Red-Squirrel_2

unforeseen wrote: »

The lift needs maintenance work. How do you propose it is done without removing its use from the building occupants?

Wrong way around, if a lift needs to be replaced, how does the freeholder propose to accommodate the needs of the residents who rely on it during the necessary work?

You surely can't think its acceptable not to consider this?

Thrugelmir

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

How can it be common sense to potentially strand people in their homes for weeks at a time?

This is London remember, so its not like people there always have a choice about living on the upper floors, there were wheelchair users and other disabled and elderly people on the higher floors in Grenfell.

If someone chooses to live in such a location then it's their problem.

What's special about London high rises. I can think of many other locations and scenarios that would result in similar issues.

unforeseen

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

Wrong way around, if a lift needs to be replaced, how does the freeholder propose to accommodate the needs of the residents who rely on it during the necessary work?

You surely can't think its acceptable not to consider this?

There is very little if anything the freeholder can do as any sort of temporary replacement.

What would you suggest with only one lift shaft?

Red-Squirrel_2

Thrugelmir wrote: »

If someone chooses to live in such a location then it's their problem.

Wow, I'm really astonished at the attitude of some of you.

Wheelchair user or elderly person with severe arthritis trapped in their home for two months? Well its their own fault, who cares?

Beggars belief.

Red-Squirrel_2

unforeseen wrote: »

There is very little if anything the freeholder can do as any sort of temporary replacement.

What would you suggest with only one lift shaft?

Maybe a risk assessment and temporary accommodation for people unable to safely use the stairs? You can't just leave them there! For able bodied people having to use the stairs is an inconvenience, for others they will literally be stranded.

parkrunner

I live in a block of flats which is partly sheltered accommodation. When our lift needed some major works which took around three weeks our HA put in a temporary stair lift, I have no idea of the cost though.

NeilCr

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

Maybe a risk assessment and temporary accommodation for people unable to safely use the stairs? You can't just leave them there! For able bodied people having to use the stairs is an inconvenience, for others they will literally be stranded.

OP did say they had tried to get other residents interested and there didn’t seem to be much of a groundswell of support. For all we know the landlord has identified anyone who may have a problem and provided alternative solutions.

I do get your point but I’d have thought that the OP would have heard/found out if other residents were concerned

Red-Squirrel_2

NeilCr wrote: »

For all we know the landlord has identified anyone who may have a problem and provided alternative solutions.

I certainly hope you're right. Quite upset by some of the reactions on here to the mere suggestion that disabled people might have a right not to imprisoned in their flats.

MonSaveHelp

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

How can it be common sense to potentially strand people in their homes for weeks at a time?

This is London remember, so its not like people there always have a choice about living on the upper floors, there were wheelchair users and other disabled and elderly people on the higher floors in Grenfell.

The elderly residences are isolated and vulnerable, they are going to find it hard, but aren't or don't feel able to stand up for themselves as most people in the block keep themselves to themselves.

Another residence has to move 70kg+ of medical supplies to this flat EVERYDAY as his son needs medical treatment due to a failed kidney. He was not sure what to do and again doesn’t feel he can do anything, probably because of his immigrant background.

The lift work will begin early next week, and we are all individually afraid of how to approach LL. Due to the shortness of my AST I may be given marching orders if I approach them.

Once the lift work begins, it may be too late. Private contractors sometimes recommend expensive repairs to LL for profit and not for the benefit of the residents.

At this point, I am looking at some way of contacting the LL anonymously (maybe email) immediately with the aim of:

- Stopping any work until its necessity is discussed with residents and dates agreed
- Agree remediation for specific residents that need critical help
- Maybe see if we can have the lift working out of hours/weekends/at some times
- Get consensus about works ending dates which seem open with contractor


The Landlord will begin the works unless I can provide some kind legal argument or consequence that will make them re-think and enter into a discussion to ensure we are doing everything that is best for the residents.

Is there any content I can email to the LL URGENTLY (today) which could make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any content or guidance.