Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

walesrob

iro wrote: »

A new election would seem to be the only way to solve this issue.

Yeah we have a government in waiting a.k.a. The Labour Party, you know the one - they'll employ lots of police officers and pay them £8 a year, a Chancellor in waiting who think communism is funky, and a leader promising the earth, oh and his front bench team are united about Brexit. What can possibly go wrong?:rotfl:

Ballard

ilovehouses wrote: »

I've been predicting TM will be the recipient of a knife in the back since the last general election. It's still coming but she's extremely resilient - wouldn't surprise me if she led the Tories into another snap election.

I can't wait to see Labour's and the Tory manifesto brexit positions. I suspect, even for a manifeto promise, they'll be woolly in the extreme.

I don’t think that anyone else wants the top job at the moment. Whatever happens with Brexit it’ll almost certainly upset a lot of people. Better for someone to come in and mop up the mess.

ukcarper

iro wrote: »

A new election would seem to be the only way to solve this issue.

I don't think an election would solve anything all major parties are spit and most likely we would end up with no one having overall majority.

Zero_Gravitas

Ballard wrote: »

I don’t think that anyone else wants the top job at the moment. Whatever happens with Brexit it’ll almost certainly upset a lot of people. Better for someone to come in and mop up the mess.

Absolutely agree. If they really thought that Brexit was going to be a success, then Boris, Gove, Ree-Mogg etc would be queuing up now to take over from TM and lead us to the glorious sunny uplands of brexit, from where they would be able to claim all the credit...

As it is, they believe their best plan is to let TM fail, and for it to be even more startlingly obvious that brexit has gone terribly for the U.K. and its people, before suddenly appearing to clean it up.

Oh, and in other news - interesting article in Private Eye this week (issue 1472, page 40) about how Jacob Ree-Mogg’s fund management company are both setting up an operation in Dublin and advising their U.K. clients that the negative risks to their capital are significantly higher as a result of brexit...

Malthusian

iro wrote: »

So let us have a GE then.

It will take a decade or two for the current generation of polits to retire, die or flee to cushy NGO jobs, and to fill the House of Commons with a new generation who have come to terms with Brexit. MPs who actually want to lead the country, instead of rubberstamping EU directives while posturing and collecting a fat wodge.

A general election now would be totally pointless. Either nothing would change, or we would replace blue Remain politicians with red Remain politicians.

The problem is that the House of Commons is 90% dead men walking, the solution is not to give them new shoes.

fewgroats

Would the bringing in on the Labour Party and the potential saving of the NHS and public services be totally pointless? Fixing Brexit in this case would be a happy bonus.

iro

fewgroats wrote: »

Would the bringing in on the Labour Party and the potential saving of the NHS and public services be totally pointless? Fixing Brexit in this case would be a happy bonus.

I would prefer Caroline Flint as my MP to Anna Soubry

Telling Leave voters to 'suck it up' and this ....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/25/labour-tory-minister-accused-swearing-ed-miliband-apologise

really does make you wonder

buglawton

A Brexit only in name would be intolerable
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/14/even-remainer-can-see-politically-compromised-brexit-heading/
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I like the way he describes the current EU as a 3 way carve up, Germany manufacturing, France agriculture, UK finance.
IMO, without any say in maintaining our share of the carve up, maybe WTO is the only way to go.

Thrugelmir

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

As it is, they believe their best plan is to let TM fail, and for it to be even more startlingly obvious that brexit has gone terribly for the U.K. and its people, before suddenly appearing to clean it up.

What's the measurement of failure? The sooner that politics returns to a domestic agenda the better. There's plenty of serious social issues brewing.

vivatifosi

buglawton wrote: »

A Brexit only in name would be intolerable
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/14/even-remainer-can-see-politically-compromised-brexit-heading/
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I like the way he describes the current EU as a 3 way carve up, Germany manufacturing, France agriculture, UK finance.
IMO, without any say in maintaining our share of the carve up, maybe WTO is the only way to go.

If it's a three way carve up with the UK dominating financial services, how does the UK benefit from going to the WTO, which is about manufacturing rather than services?